If you want the topic Gabby create it.. don't tell me to do it.. i was asked to not push your buttons and i said i will honor it.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: gabbydott <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. Words can be seen as place holders if there is no meaning connected to them. You insist your meaning is right, I insist my meaning is right, doesn't lead us anywhere. That's why I made a suggestion you developed a meaning repository of "soul" for us to be able to enter a meaningful conversation with you instead of being confronted with what I perceive as empty place holder interjections in an otherwise interesting thread continuation. But you can twist, offend, insult, attack - fools and children are always forgiven. My problem is that I take it serious what you are doing and saying here. And I get my punishment. [ waving hello at RP :-) ] Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : > To me all " big girl " is saying is she is an adult and of female gender.. > nothing more.. unless may be grow up. No different some one telling me I > am a big boy.. > > But if i say the sun is shining Gabby is offended.. if she is offended i > will stop using it.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > To: [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Also, I have to go with Gabby on this one. Calling her a big girl is > gender insensitive and demeaning. > > On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:27:40 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> I am trying to find out why our big girl Gabby is so bothered be me?? Is >> Gabby's soul felling a bit guilty over what..that is a real question.. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> To: [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:16 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >> >> Do you have false teeth by any chance Gabby? If so, could you have a >> second set made, then you could leave them in situ after biting his ass, >> and save the rest of us from the thiedium? >> >> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:05:11 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >> >> Big girl - that's not my wording, not my style, not how I view myself. >> It's true, I was trying to make a constructive suggestion to get us out >> of your barking at us and twisting our words to draw the focus of attention >> to your soul perspective. Can you think of another solution so we others do >> not have to constantly feel attacked? >> >> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : >> >> If you want the topic opened, open it Gabby. You keep telling me you are >> a big girl.. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 2:34 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >> >> Soul is a place holder for "guilty conscious" in this context here, I >> suppose. I suggest you open a thread with the header "soul" and you collect >> all the different meanings you have identified us others associate with it. >> We would also profit from it by being able to go there when in need of >> translation options for your "soul" usage. And you could be sure it was >> your very own translation that is being used by the others. What do you >> think? >> >> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : >> >> When people do wrong knowing they justify it because their soul knows it >> is wrong and they should not be doing it. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:57 AM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >> >> Sure Allan, but these criminals seek excuses to justify themselves to >> others and themselves. As a matter of fact there is no excuse for any crime >> and a criminal has to bear the consequences of his act. >> >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> There is no justification for rape in any form or of any gender. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 3:36 AM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >> >> The women dressing sense developed in the west gradually and it was not >> copying others but an indigenous matter and as it was a gradual process the >> western society as a whole was able to accept it. But in India it was not >> so, some educated girls started copying the west and Indian society as a >> whole was not prepared for it, and that is the reason that some backward >> sections of our society find it unacceptable, but still it has nothing to >> do with rape, which is a criminal act and done by criminal people. The >> reasons that such people give for it is just a justification for their >> criminal deed and not the real reason. >> >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The argument that there are rapes in India because girls are not raised >> up as equals with comparison to boys is not correct. If today girls are >> entering into the workforce is not as a result of girls asserting >> themselves but because their families are giving them a chance to make a >> career for themselves. The parents, brothers, and husbands are co-operating >> with the girls, they are encouraging the girls to go out and become career >> girls and this is not limited to just the urban population but also >> applicable to villagers. Consider the position of women a few centuries >> back in Europe and America, they were just housewives and were not >> encouraged to become doctors and engineers. India was an occupied country >> for a long time and the proceed of this land was taken overseas and the >> people as a mass were poor and uneducated, and as such women did not have >> chance to go out and work. There were a few jobs available and it was taken >> by boys. >> Today as India is progressing more and more women are going out to work >> even those belonging to the villages. Rapes are not happening because girls >> are not considered as equal to men , but because of a criminal mindset of >> some people. Formerly even women of the west were wearing discrete clothes >> and it has taken time for women sexuality to assert itself in the west. As >> the west is the leader in this respect the issue of attire was never raised >> as there was no one to compare with. Here as women are becoming modern, >> including their families, comparisons are drawn with the west because it is >> there to compare with. >> It is the uneducated and backward people here in India who are making a >> issue of dress in the name of culture and it is criminal mentality in some >> people which is making them rape and terrorize girls. Today girls are >> making friends with boys and it is accepted by their families, but India >> still holds spiritual values and it is expected that the relationship of >> the sexes remain pure, just as it was the case with the west. >> I have not seen the documentary but from what I have heard it appears >> that the cause of rapes in India is being said to be due to unequal >> upbringing of girls and boys. But this is far from the truth, Indians are >> going through the same phase of development that the west went through a >> century ago. WE are progressing as a people and very fast, and if there is >> crime, and I consider rape to be a crime, it is because of the criminal >> mentality of some people. Criminals always justify their actions they never >> say that they are doing wrong but lay the blame on others and as such the >> statements of the rapists and their backward advocates should not be taken >> as the truth. Rape occurs just like anywhere else because of cheap >> mentality of some people and the justification given by some people is due >> to a prejudiced mindset. Indians as a people are progressive and crime >> should be taken to be what it is and not otherwise. >> >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:35 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Time published an article making the following points on India: >> >> 1. More rapes are being reported now: Along with the modernization of >> society, more Indian women are being educated and are going out to work. >> They are breaking out of the subservient mold that society had given to >> them and are more independent. While this means they are more likely to be >> sexually abused, it also means they are more likely — compared with women >> of a previous generation — to report rapes and confront sexual predators. >> In the three months after the Delhi gang rape, the number of rapes reported >> in the city more than doubled to 359, from the 143 reported in >> January-March of 2012. This doesn’t necessarily mean more rapes are >> happening now, just that more women are emboldened to come out and report. >> >> 2. India actually has a high conviction rate for rape: According to the >> Guardian, just 7% of reported rapes in the U.K. resulted in convictions >> during 2011-12. In Sweden, the conviction rate is as low as 10%. France had >> a conviction rate of 25% in 2006. Poor India, a developing nation with >> countless challenges, managed an impressive 24.2% conviction rate in 2012. >> That’s thanks to the efforts of a lot of good people — police, lawyers, >> victims and their families — working heroically with limited resources. >> >> 3. The media report everything: According to Dave Prager, the American >> author of Delirious Delhi, crimes that “wouldn’t garner even a sentence in >> an American paper because so many bigger crimes would elbow it out of the >> way” are obsessively reported in Indian news publications. Post the Delhi >> gang rape, Indian media have faithfully recorded each and every rape case, >> highlighted them for the world and continue to do so. >> >> 4. Most Indians, men and women, hate the reputation that rapists have >> given their country: No country in the world can claim to have witnessed >> protests against rape on the scale of India’s, where people turned out in >> the tens of thousands to voice their shock and sadness. It was people power >> that forced the government to change existing rape laws and drew the >> world’s attention to the problem. What happens in other countries? This may >> not be a typical example, but the rape of a teen girl by high school >> football players in the Steubenville, Ohio had many in the town >> sympathizing with the rapists and not the victim. >> >> And in Poodleland UK, government is refusing to release very old files on >> child sex abuse (and murder) involving politicians. More than 500,000 >> women and children were trafficked in the first year after wall fall. >> >> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 6:04:51 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >> >> The point to me is these Indians don't seem to trust the law to do much. >> And they don't look like vigilantes to me either. I'll be your Poodle >> Gabby, as long as you mash my food. >> >> On Saturday, 7 March 2015 13:07:16 UTC, Gabby wrote: >> >> I'm with Molly on this one. Your comparison deflects from the issue. >> Brits have become so wimpy these days - monarchic poodles of the great >> Republicans. Triangulation is key here. Grass roots empowerment for >> the front garden lawn, but not in the corn fields where they minimize the >> harvest output! No Bottom-up grass without Top-down sunshine control! >> >> Am Samstag, 7. März 2015 schrieb archytas : >> >> Not my idea of one either Molly. Though better this kind of violence >> than being shepherded into war quietly. >> >> On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:22:58 PM UTC, Molly wrote: >> >> Not the grass roots movement I had in mind. I'm with Allan on this one. >> Murder in response to anything is not the answer. (Self defense is >> different.) >> >> >> On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:20:12 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >> >> Thousands of furious Indians swarmed t >> >> ... > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/-5LTfst-rD0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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