LOL  that is very true Polly..  but it become important to understand word 
usage..

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: polly skid <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.

'Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup
They slither wildly as they slip away across the universe'... Beatles...
This is playing while i  look at this post.. Sort of a weird coincidence
seeing the conversation about words..
On Mar 8, 2015 9:52 PM, "Molly" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Allan already admitted he was using it as a way to tell Gabby to grow up.
> If you call a grown woman a big girl or girl, it is demeaning because you
> are implying they are immature or not as intelligent. If you call a three
> year old a big girl, they may appreciate you noticing that they are growing
> up. No brainer.
>
> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:15:27 PM UTC-4, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>
>> Hold up, now, there has to be SOME understanding of colloquial use of
>> language if there's any hope to achieve common ground. "Big boy" and "Big
>> girl" are very much colloquial ways to describe someone who is grown up and
>> capable of taking care of themselves. It's not specifically gendered for
>> the purpose of gender, and it's not the same casual usage of "girl" which
>> causes offense to those sensitive to such.
>>
>> The language police have become much more aggressive, I see.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Allan, calling a woman a girl is well known to be gender insensitive. If
>> you don't think so, suggest you brush up or this may not be the last time
>> you are called out for it. If indeed we are all supportive for human
>> rights, we can bring ourselves to be sensitive to what the other feels when
>> bearing the brunt of our words. Here in the states, calling a man a boy can
>> get you in a great deal of trouble depending on the color of your skin and
>> the region that your feet are currently planted upon. Words do matter, and
>> claiming what is said is said in jest or is insignificant is an age old way
>> to discount the reality of inequity, and always shows itself to be exactly
>> what it is to people with attitudes that truly support human rights. So
>> many of our words come to us through social conditioning, we don't
>> understand the origin or inequity. It is incumbent on each of us to try.
>> Tolerance of biased or abusive attitudes creates cultures of inequity.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> To me all " big girl " is saying is she is an adult and of female
>> gender.. nothing more.. unless may be grow up.  No different some one
>> telling me I am a big boy..
>>
>> But if i say the sun is shining Gabby is offended.. if she is offended i
>> will stop using it..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Molly <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>
>> Also, I have to go with Gabby on this one. Calling her a big girl is
>> gender insensitive and demeaning.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:27:40 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to find out why our big girl Gabby is so bothered be me?? Is
>> Gabby's soul felling a bit guilty over what..that is a real question..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>
>> Do you have false teeth by any chance Gabby?  If so, could you have a
>> second set made, then you could leave them in situ after biting his ass,
>> and save the rest of us from the thiedium?
>>
>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:05:11 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>
>> Big girl - that's not my wording, not my style, not how I view myself.
>> It's true, I was trying to make a constructive suggestion to get us out
>> of your barking at us and twisting our words to draw the focus of attention
>> to your soul perspective. Can you think of another solution so we others do
>> not have to constantly feel attacked?
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb :
>>
>> If you want the topic opened, open it Gabby. You keep telling me you are
>> a big girl..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 2:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>
>> Soul is a place holder for "guilty conscious" in this context here, I
>> suppose. I suggest you open a thread with the header "soul" and you collect
>> all the different meanings you have identified us others associate with it.
>> We would also profit from it by being able to go there when in need of
>> translation options for your "soul" usage. And you could be sure it was
>> your very own translation that is being used by the others. What do you
>> think?
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb :
>>
>> When people do wrong knowing they justify it because their soul knows it
>> is wrong and they should not be doing it.
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>
>> Sure Allan, but these criminals seek excuses to justify themselves to
>> others and themselves. As a matter of fact there is no excuse for any crime
>> and a criminal has to bear the consequences of his act.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> There is no justification for rape in any form or of any gender.
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 3:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>
>> The women dressing sense developed in the west gradually and it was not
>> copying others but an indigenous matter and as it was a gradual process the
>> western society as a whole was able to accept it. But in India it was not
>> so, some educated girls started copying the west and Indian society as a
>> whole was not prepared for it, and that is the reason that some backward
>> sections of our society find it unacceptable, but still it has nothing to
>> do with rape, which is a criminal act and done by criminal people. The
>> reasons that such people give for it is just a justification for their
>> criminal deed and not the real reason.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The argument that there are rapes in India because girls are not raised
>> up as equals with comparison to boys is not correct. If today girls are
>> entering into the workforce is not as a result of girls asserting
>> themselves but because their families are giving them a chance to make a
>> career for themselves. The parents, brothers, and husbands are co-operating
>> with the girls, they are encouraging the girls to go out and become career
>> girls and this is not limited to just the urban population but also
>> applicable to villagers. Consider the position of women a few centuries
>> back in Europe and America, they were just housewives and were not
>> encouraged to become doctors and engineers. India was an occupied coun
>>
>> ...
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