Heyo Neil, thanks for sharing, I take it as caring. Not my logic though.

I am not as happy as I could be in this group here is what I thought I had
tried to communicate for quite some time. I have summed up my reasoning to
construct a reasonable narrative for myself and also to give you a reason
to know why you were right with your set up.

Happy sunshine everywhere. :-)



2015-03-18 2:11 GMT+01:00 archytas <[email protected]>:

> Who would we not be apologising to?
> http://listverse.com/2014/02/04/10-evil-crimes-of-the-british-empire/
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Namaqua_Genocide
>
> http://med-slavery.uni-trier.de/minev/MedSlavery/Members/stello/bibliobits/articlereference.2007-07-27.3233996517
>
> As a kid Gabby, I imagined the Royal Navy at sea to prevent the drugs
> trade in the Opium Wars, not support the trade.  We are all had by
> nationalism.  Few of us grow out of it.  I guess 'Israel' will not take
> keenly to being reminded that all 2000 of Istanbul's Slavers' Club were
> Jews.  You know what Germans can be reminded of.  Where is the moral hill
> for your sermon on the mount?  It is not unwelcome, but it is shrill,
> boring and unknowledgeable - whereas you are not.  What now then?
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 11:18:05 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>
>> Welcome back Gabby.  Have you had a mystic experience?  We seem to be
>> short of them in another thread on mystics.  Unlike your old themes they
>> seem to have been quickly forgotten.  I see you have been 'reading up' on
>> US hatestory.  Alex Blum is good too.  Of course, in 1861 when the old
>> countries were imperialising and drug trafficking, we did mean to join the
>> Confederates.  The American mistake, by one vote, was not speaking the more
>> peaceful German of the royalty you exported to us and the Russians so we
>> could have a good old family squabble, or two.  We might blame the Dutch,
>> but then Allan has been placed amongst them.
>>
>> Have you read the history of the slaving in Europe and around the Black
>> Sea?  One hears remarkably little contrition on this account either.  What
>> to do then?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10:07:47 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>
>>> Right, here goes my lessons learned article…
>>>
>>> I have come to the conclusion that the American God varies largely from
>>> the German God. Let me explain how I have arrived at this point. Before I
>>> came to this group here I have always thought that God was sort of a
>>> universal concept for anything that was not something. Here I became
>>> introduced to the idea that everything had to be determined and defined
>>> properly to be valid and to become accessible for an argumentative
>>> exchange. Those who could or would not operate on this basis got banned or
>>> when in doubt they get ridiculed, bullied ,and ignored. The representatives
>>> of this system and how they themselves have defined their role as group
>>> moderators has ever since reminded me of the God of the Old Testament in my
>>> children's bible. Non-transparent execution of power over childlike
>>> members.
>>>
>>> I soon began to draw connections from the strange habitus of the
>>> performers in power to the belief systems under discussion here. Except for
>>> the two eccentric British "cousins" all power performers and performers in
>>> power were Americans from what I remember. No matter what kind of God
>>> concept they proposed, they all had this transcending notion in their
>>> appeal . It felt like the American myth is in constant need of feeding
>>> itself with a self-perpetuating self-pride through a permanent celebration
>>> of liberating one's own liberty from any sort of dependency. Fighting
>>> everything that does not fit in that frame. I felt no responsibility, no
>>> remorse, no historical conscience for their genocide of their First Nations
>>> and for their Slave history, no awareness for possibly having been a thorn
>>> in the flesh of somebody else. Nada. Not meant to be there. Hypocrisy
>>> instead.
>>>
>>> I think and hope that I have more or less made my peace with God's
>>> imprint on the Americans. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
>>> all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
>>> certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
>>> pursuit of Happiness."  I take it the pursuit of Happiness was the first
>>> indicator for transcendental sunshine demand when declaring one's
>>> independence from the old continent.
>>>
>>> So, yes, the time is now. Peace.
>>>
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