What can I do but return the love to you?! I am reminded of an old screen name I used to have somewhere else when you call me imp - homuncula. I guess you like it. And no, I never wanted to become the good girl you say I would have liked to be, the very idea makes me feel guilty of what I have done to have left that impression. Sorry to have caused a confusion here. I don't know how to get you to people who understand what you are doing or could be doing. I would tell you if I knew.
Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2015 schrieb archytas : > No doubt we proceed by transference and its counter in our new > co-counselling manoeuvres. It is often difficult to proceed when someone > takes one's admission that one doesn't really know when WW1 and WW2 or the > one in Africa that is ongoing and invisible is merely that one doesn't know > the terms 1914 and 1939. It is true some of our American cousins (for even > you and I are in the 'family porridge').thought free trade and > self-reliance a kind of god and a health service for all the work of the > Devil. And that some of them mistake a quasi-orgasmic > selfish-rationalisation by these means with the spiritual world. Perhaps > you would be more comfortable in Allan's excellent private email group he > advertises in here without compunction? Or watching the excellent NCIS and > various other forms of the all-encompassing American excellence of > excellence not even excellent in its own terms 30 years after we slow > Europeans get round to teaching it, not realising *In Search of > Excellence *was a copy of a British report into good secondary schools > that could be deflated with a quick trip to a German one. Sorry to be so > serious when you are not as happy as you might be. You have always sensed > I need a different audience and were always right on this. > > I am unclear how you have turned :-) into Bart Simpson's 'eat my shorts', > but American colonialism is more subtle than our crude commie-green > constructs can handle. Resistance often has to be banal and symbolic. I > can, in deep introspective, see the light coming from whence the sun does > not shine and rework through that stunning emotion. > > There is therapy that recognises trauma as part of recognising reality > and we do seem equipped to shift brain blood flows to rapture and bliss > once purified and developed not to need the drug users paraphernalia - a > Greek term of that property of a women not subsumed by the male in marriage > husbandry. You can be assured I care, and know a hundred logics of caring > that isn't if caught not caring. Trust is a poison cure and though we have > language terms that sound clever in Greek, hinting that one is read in the > Athenian Enlightenment of a city of 400,000 with 250,000 slaves and not > much for a woman to look forward to other than be allowed out after 60 to > the funerals of friends, language itself remains unaware of the > dispositions of its materialisation. This is why I advocate the > spreadsheet and database as other than accounting practice. Two decent > adding machines would be more use to a free society than all of banking, > economics and the politics of the rubber-masked aliens running the show. I > don't know if you have ever read any AI, but it is very like anything you > have learned in the linguistic game and your brilliant turn to AL with the > capital 'i'. It is worth 'putting up with you', a compliment I have > detuned in fear of the great rebuke of your kindly 'piss off outta here > Neil' deconstructive repetitions and wit. > > It is still possible to relate other than through mannered language and > its slogans. I remain soppy enough to offer to 'hold hands', though know > my dogs' love is reliant on their lack of opposed thumbs in a world of > tins. I would say we both know what it is to be let down by promises. > It's Budget Day here and I feel very let down. The idea as a kid seemed to > be that a bit of knuckling down to 'mustn't grumble' (darf nicht murren > doesn't get this - do you have better?) would produce a decent society > across the globe. as we worked together to cope with a coming ice age and > find romantic love and peace. Life would be good as a cog in this Kantian > wheel. We had won the war to end all wars that created the next one, which > we won in order to fight the ally we weren't told had really won it, whilst > we tried to steal the Middle East back with the French, stopped only by the > American democratic god that had enough money to do the takeover as > everyone else was bankrupt. My part in this peace was to become democratic > like an American with the great freedoms my spur, whilst somehow preparing > for this peace by being ready to kill interfering Germans and Japanese. > > To discover this wasn't the world I was living in was something of a > shock. One wonders now how they taught us such a concealment of the truth > and prepared us for trauma on discovering any. Social insects use trauma in > consensus building. We use the techniques of the American god of Hopeless > Sunshine. My logic is science, which works by concealing that it is barely > logical at all until written up for public consumption. What you need to > become a mystic is a past invention like Socrates, an original invention > copied from travellers' tales East, so heroic and more good looking than > you that he was a saint in his own time, revered by all of good sense, in > order to interpolate through him (her being in fashion) the great vision > you invented from an old copy of an ancient text translated ten times and > itself written 60 years after the miracles everyone at the time was too > busy to give contemporaneous account of. You know this drift Gabby and it > makes it tough to be the good girl you wish you'd been born of and is > actually the kind of person I cross the street to avoid. Well you have to > avoid them. Their eyes are so upturned to the American god and not getting > caught in pass-the-parcel without the box of dollars they intend to run off > with when the music stops, they never notice who they step on. > > They mostly weren't in here though. I'd like to hear more and different - > though I can break up even this sentence in various contexts including > receptions and my own intent-receptions-repetitions. Burke and Hare is > good on hypocrisy and so is the holy genuflection of a Tibetan monk, all > adulatory eyes like a good whore (a one-legged one saved my life if you > remember) to his Chinese appointed Lama. Rapturous adulation can be faked > as easily as men and women manage biological ecstasy. Tough old world. I > like the story that William Blake had his 'visions' in a lifelong pursuit > of the rise he got taking the St Michael out of pretentious gawps. Uncle > Screwtape passes on his love to his dearest un-American imp. > > > > On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 9:27:47 AM UTC, Gabby wrote: >> >> Heyo Neil, thanks for sharing, I take it as caring. Not my logic though. >> >> I am not as happy as I could be in this group here is what I thought I >> had tried to communicate for quite some time. I have summed up my reasoning >> to construct a reasonable narrative for myself and also to give you a >> reason to know why you were right with your set up. >> >> Happy sunshine everywhere. :-) >> >> >> >> 2015-03-18 2:11 GMT+01:00 archytas <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>: >> >>> Who would we not be apologising to? >>> http://listverse.com/2014/02/04/10-evil-crimes-of-the-british-empire/ >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Namaqua_Genocide >>> http://med-slavery.uni-trier.de/minev/MedSlavery/Members/ >>> stello/bibliobits/articlereference.2007-07-27.3233996517 >>> >>> As a kid Gabby, I imagined the Royal Navy at sea to prevent the drugs >>> trade in the Opium Wars, not support the trade. We are all had by >>> nationalism. Few of us grow out of it. I guess 'Israel' will not take >>> keenly to being reminded that all 2000 of Istanbul's Slavers' Club were >>> Jews. You know what Germans can be reminded of. Where is the moral hill >>> for your sermon on the mount? It is not unwelcome, but it is shrill, >>> boring and unknowledgeable - whereas you are not. What now then? >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 11:18:05 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> Welcome back Gabby. Have you had a mystic experience? We seem to be >>>> short of them in another thread on mystics. Unlike your old themes they >>>> seem to have been quickly forgotten. I see you have been 'reading up' on >>>> US hatestory. Alex Blum is good too. Of course, in 1861 when the old >>>> countries were imperialising and drug trafficking, we did mean to join the >>>> Confederates. The American mistake, by one vote, was not speaking the more >>>> peaceful German of the royalty you exported to us and the Russians so we >>>> could have a good old family squabble, or two. We might blame the Dutch, >>>> but then Allan has been placed amongst them. >>>> >>>> Have you read the history of the slaving in Europe and around the Black >>>> Sea? One hears remarkably little contrition on this account either. What >>>> to do then? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10:07:47 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Right, here goes my lessons learned article… >>>>> >>>>> I have come to the conclusion that the American God varies largely >>>>> from the German God. Let me explain how I have arrived at this point. >>>>> Before I came to this group here I have always thought that God was sort >>>>> of >>>>> a universal concept for anything that was not something. Here I became >>>>> introduced to the idea that everything had to be determined and defined >>>>> properly to be valid and to become accessible for an argumentative >>>>> exchange. Those who could or would not operate on this basis got banned or >>>>> when in doubt they get ridiculed, bullied ,and ignored. The >>>>> representatives >>>>> of this system and how they themselves have defined their role as group >>>>> moderators has ever since reminded me of the God of the Old Testament in >>>>> my >>>>> children's bible. Non-transparent execution of power over childlike >>>>> members. >>>>> >>>>> I soon began to draw connections from the strange habitus of the >>>>> performers in power to the belief systems under discussion here. Except >>>>> for >>>>> the two eccentric British "cousins" all power performers and performers in >>>>> power were Americans from what I remember. No matter what kind of God >>>>> concept they proposed, they all had this transcending notion in their >>>>> appeal . It felt like the American myth is in constant need of feeding >>>>> itself with a self-perpetuating self-pride through a permanent celebration >>>>> of liberating one's own liberty from any sort of dependency. Fighting >>>>> everything that does not fit in that frame. I felt no responsibility, no >>>>> remorse, no historical conscience for their genocide of their First >>>>> Nations >>>>> and for their Slave history, no awareness for possibly having been a thorn >>>>> in the flesh of somebody else. Nada. Not meant to be there. Hypocrisy >>>>> instead. >>>>> >>>>> I think and hope that I have more or less made my peace with God's >>>>> imprint on the Americans. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that >>>>> all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with >>>>> certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the >>>>> pursuit of Happiness." I take it the pursuit of Happiness was the first >>>>> indicator for transcendental sunshine demand when declaring one's >>>>> independence from the old continent. >>>>> >>>>> So, yes, the time is now. 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