The formula for hydrogen is safe with me. On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 5:34:46 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Don't give away secrets.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen > > Not sure we can guarantee getting high enough for a parachute to deploy > before we get that jumping feeling Andrew! Though all systems depending on > hot air will be green for go, > > On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 8:08:12 AM UTC, andrew vecsey wrote: >> >> Count me in. I would love to come with all of you and go wherever the >> wind blows. I will take my parachute with me so I can jump off when it gets >> too chattery in the back. >> >> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 11:37:32 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>> >>> We could make a loop, Netherlands, UK, New York,Florida, India, >>> Germany...take our time! >>> >>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 6:32:29 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> It would easily make the journey. . With Neils idea of using solar >>>> power it could have unlimited range.. a luxury liner in the sky. A >>>> small >>>> version could be a sky yacht . Love to meet you. >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:05 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>> >>>> Can we fly it from Michigan to the Netherlands? I will book my vacation >>>> days now. >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:45:49 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just occasionally i get an idea once in a while say an insight.. >>>>> there are many that know much more than i do.. >>>>> Sometimes I get lucky.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:31 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>> >>>>> Now I shall have to look elsewhere for the fount of all wisdom. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:19:05 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Does I don't know count. I was only interested how to safely use >>>>>> hydrogen. That is the real key to get it to airship to work as it gets >>>>>> it >>>>>> into the realm of practical. Oil and aviation industries will not like >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:01 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds very uplifting, now what about the cross-wind? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:54:14 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Past experience tells me it is not really an original idea and >>>>>>> the gas handling systems are in play already i am sure of that.. >>>>>>> Part of the detracting part is helium as either the Arabs or the US >>>>>>> has you by the short hairs neither choice is optimal. . Helium is >>>>>>> expensive .. >>>>>>> The problem with hydrogen is it will burn from anywhere 4% to >>>>>>> 90+% air it is easy to say mix air hydrogen it burns.. that is the >>>>>>> reason for using nitrogen atmospheric nitrogen has a specific >>>>>>> gravity >>>>>>> of 0.9723 and is easily obtained and prevents hydrogen from >>>>>>> reaching >>>>>>> the flammable range.. of course you need quiet a few gas bags to >>>>>>> safely >>>>>>> control lift no matter which lifting gas one uses.. helium is >>>>>>> expensive and very controlled. . >>>>>>> Hydrogen is going to seep through almost any type of expandable >>>>>>> bag using a double bag you can retrieve the seepage for recycling if >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> double bags are contained inside a nitrogen soft filled bag you can >>>>>>> easily avoid hydrogen from reaching a flammable state.. if in a >>>>>>> emergency occurred you could safely vent the hydrogen from the top of >>>>>>> your airship with the gas quickly rising. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The specific gravity of Helium is 0.138 where as hydrogen is 0.0696 >>>>>>> which gives hydrogen almost twice the lifting power for the same >>>>>>> volume >>>>>>> gas.. lifting power is what it is all about.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course neither the oil industry or aircraft industry are going >>>>>>> to support the idea.. in reality they will do all they can discourage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the development if modern airships. This becomes even so when you add >>>>>>> solar panels to the mix.. especially since the development of being >>>>>>> able to create flexible sheets on a printing press using the correct >>>>>>> inks.. >>>>>>> It becomes not difficult to visualize airships that are totally >>>>>>> solar powered.. even available to separate the noble gasses needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 4:06 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Buoyant gases- such as Ammonia, Hydrogen, Methane, Helium, Nitrogen, >>>>>>> etc. do not require liquidation in order to reduce lift, with the >>>>>>> exception >>>>>>> of Ammonia as a lift gas, due to the ease of doing just that. But >>>>>>> Ammonia >>>>>>> has only 40% the lift of Hydrogen, and is caustic. It’s been rejected >>>>>>> as a >>>>>>> lift gas, at least with current technologies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But I digress. Some actually do propose compression of the lift gas >>>>>>> as a means of controlling lift- Aeros has even flown a full-sized >>>>>>> airship >>>>>>> that has done just that. It is one of their Helium advertizing >>>>>>> airships, >>>>>>> modified to house the COSH(Control Of Static Heaviness) system as a >>>>>>> testbed >>>>>>> for their new DARPA hybrid Zeppelin, the PELICAN. The Pelican itself is >>>>>>> designed to be able to control lift in all modes of flight, through >>>>>>> either >>>>>>> compression of the Helium or heating the Helium. This does not require >>>>>>> liquefaction for the very simple reason that the gases derive their >>>>>>> buoyancy from being slightly less dense than the atmosphere, and all >>>>>>> gases >>>>>>> are very easily compressible, unlike water. It requires roughly as much >>>>>>> pressure as a bicycle tire to completely negate the lift of Helium, for >>>>>>> instance. The hull of a modern airship consists of composites of >>>>>>> Kevlar, >>>>>>> Tedlar, Mylar, Vectran, Nylon, and other coatings. It’s layered and >>>>>>> almost >>>>>>> completely impermeable; some hulls only lose 3% of their volume PER >>>>>>> ANNUM. >>>>>>> Secondly, the compression system on the PELICAN- thus far the only one >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> existence- relies on ballonets within the envelope. Any minute >>>>>>> quantities >>>>>>> of gas that DOES escape would just escape into the low-pressure hull. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:47:36 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I sucked those sophisticated eggs some time ago. So what is >>>>>>>> the cost of compression? Fridges do it so some spreadsheet jockey >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> know the score. Cold fusion works if you ain't worried about the >>>>>>>> electric >>>>>>>> bill. Elastic is prone to snap in prolonged use. Our grand plan to >>>>>>>> cure >>>>>>>> global warming and at least four other more important environmental >>>>>>>> disasters, sound in theory, may fall at the "hayperth" of tar level - >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> that hot tar sounds good for sealing hydrogen bags. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm watching a convalescent western, 'The Trail to Hope Rose'. It >>>>>>>> has Lou 'Hard Carbon Copy' Phillips and the 6 Million Dollar Man (now >>>>>>>> looking remarkably cheap) plus some Hope Sunshine surrogate actress. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> couldn't enjoy it at all, if I didn't feel the presence of Gabby >>>>>>>> disapproving and sending me 'art house' appreciation of black rap at >>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>> blackest to keep me in Gagaland - though apparently she didn't turn up >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> do one with the dark rappers (Gaga not Gabby - though somehow this new >>>>>>>> phrase sounds wrong). Would your airship fleet have better >>>>>>>> television? RP >>>>>>>> would have us get the priorities right, after all/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:33:42 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You would never vent the hydrogen. But compress it back into >>>>>>>>> storage tanks that are able to handle hydrogen. Compressed it does >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> have the lifting power it is when it is expanded that you gain >>>>>>>>> lifting >>>>>>>>> power exactly the same way as helium. . By recycling gas you can >>>>>>>>> control your lifting ability.. for protection and safety you are >>>>>>>>> looking at using mutable gas bags. A sophisticated bunch of balloons. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 2:14 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What a saint you are Allan. Air ships don't make money and in >>>>>>>>> terms of business plans seem to be stuck in the hot-air model. Have >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> given much thought to the expansion-contraction processes of going up >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> coming down? I fell out with Hindenburg-Nemo when he issued the >>>>>>>>> order to >>>>>>>>> 'vent the hydrogen' while he was smoking his pipe. of course, these >>>>>>>>> technical trivialities matter little in the great scheme to have >>>>>>>>> enough of >>>>>>>>> Allan's babies up in the atmosphere to cool the planet in shadow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, 23 March 2015 10:52:00 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That is true.. it could be a very productive new industry. I >>>>>>>>>> know what i figured out is very patentable but i am not interested >>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> money it is more for the benefit of humanity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:44 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The finest hour of hybrid technology. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 6:34:28 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Never thought of the solar cell idea..with the fire technology >>>>>>>>>>> has greatly improved since the German rigid airships. They used >>>>>>>>>>> hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>> very successfully. The US had the only source of helium know at >>>>>>>>>>> the time. >>>>>>>>>>> With improved technology of today hydrogen can be handled >>>>>>>>>>> safely. . It also has greater lifting power than helium. >>>>>>>>>>> Using liquid metal batteries you would be able to store excess >>>>>>>>>>> power from the built in solar cells to provide power for propulsion >>>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>>> out the night.. as well as creating replacement hydrogen. . >>>>>>>>>>> Making it >>>>>>>>>>> truly self supporting.. a great benefit in crisis situations. . >>>>>>>>>>> It would be amazing seeing eco friendly shipping especially >>>>>>>>>>> one that does not use up fuel resources. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 5:02 AM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Air ships could be more or less self-sustaining. Lots of the >>>>>>>>>>> surface area could be solar panel and hydrogen and fuel could be >>>>>>>>>>> made from >>>>>>>>>>> this power and water from clouds. We might double bag the hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> helium or carbon dioxide bags. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:24:55 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chicken soup.. don't even need dentures.. >>>>>>>>>>>> Get well soon >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 11:35 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Heavy cold or 'flue here - feels like I never had an idea or >>>>>>>>>>>> the strength to type. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 22 March 2015 19:38:29 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really usually i wake up grab my phone and write the idea >>>>>>>>>>>>> down while it is fresh.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have a hard time convincing me you have never woke >>>>>>>>>>>>> up with an idea in your head. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 8:18 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Much the same problem as coming back from RP's unconscious >>>>>>>>>>>>> unity Allan.. We could us electrodes, a drip feed and translate >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> creative brain waves. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 7:05:05 PM UTC, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would be nice how do you record the idea with out waking up? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 8:03 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The trick might be becoming more productive without waking up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 22 March 2015 13:21:17 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That happens frequently to me when I am working out a design >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem for an image or literary structure for a book. I think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the state of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consciousness while sleeping that is most conducive to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creativity is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible than in waking life because the constraints of logic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are lifted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 9:11:09 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This idea has been circulating in my head ever since i saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the skycat. After the java disaster it became even more ideal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry cargo do not need a runway.. problems like terrorist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attacks can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be taken in stride with multi layered nitrogen filled gas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bags.. silk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like fabric can repel bullets be absorbing the bullets energy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. hydrogen can be safely used as the lifting gas and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readily available. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the airship could be of great benefit in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disasters as well as air transport economy. They are much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economical that cargo jets carrying cargo although not as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fast. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do love it when the time space barrier is crossed and new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge is returned to our reality.. it is a neat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeling.. especially >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you are aware of what is happening. . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 1:38 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love mornings like that. I do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 2:15:51 AM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was awaken this morning understanding how to create a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rigid airship using a multi bag system and using hydrogen as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the lifting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gas. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That has been bugging me for years.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >
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