I have some German friends - they would restrain Gabby while we crossed the airspace, though I understand this entails a deal on us taking Hope Sunshine surfing where there are really large killer whales. We could spend sometime in Hope, avery nice place about 50 miles from here.
On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 10:37:32 PM UTC, Molly wrote: > > We could make a loop, Netherlands, UK, New York,Florida, India, > Germany...take our time! > > On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 6:32:29 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> It would easily make the journey. . With Neils idea of using solar power >> it could have unlimited range.. a luxury liner in the sky. A small >> version could be a sky yacht . Love to meet you. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Molly <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:05 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >> >> Can we fly it from Michigan to the Netherlands? I will book my vacation >> days now. >> >> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:45:49 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> Just occasionally i get an idea once in a while say an insight.. there >>> are many that know much more than i do.. >>> Sometimes I get lucky.. >>> >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>> >>> Now I shall have to look elsewhere for the fount of all wisdom. >>> >>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:19:05 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> Does I don't know count. I was only interested how to safely use >>>> hydrogen. That is the real key to get it to airship to work as it gets it >>>> into the realm of practical. Oil and aviation industries will not like >>>> it. >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:01 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>> >>>> Sounds very uplifting, now what about the cross-wind? >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:54:14 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Past experience tells me it is not really an original idea and the >>>>> gas handling systems are in play already i am sure of that.. >>>>> Part of the detracting part is helium as either the Arabs or the US >>>>> has you by the short hairs neither choice is optimal. . Helium is >>>>> expensive .. >>>>> The problem with hydrogen is it will burn from anywhere 4% to 90+% >>>>> air it is easy to say mix air hydrogen it burns.. that is the reason >>>>> for >>>>> using nitrogen atmospheric nitrogen has a specific gravity of 0.9723 >>>>> and is easily obtained and prevents hydrogen from reaching the >>>>> flammable range.. of course you need quiet a few gas bags to safely >>>>> control lift no matter which lifting gas one uses.. helium is >>>>> expensive and very controlled. . >>>>> Hydrogen is going to seep through almost any type of expandable bag >>>>> using a double bag you can retrieve the seepage for recycling if the >>>>> double bags are contained inside a nitrogen soft filled bag you can >>>>> easily avoid hydrogen from reaching a flammable state.. if in a >>>>> emergency occurred you could safely vent the hydrogen from the top of >>>>> your airship with the gas quickly rising. >>>>> >>>>> The specific gravity of Helium is 0.138 where as hydrogen is 0.0696 >>>>> which gives hydrogen almost twice the lifting power for the same volume >>>>> gas.. lifting power is what it is all about.. >>>>> >>>>> Of course neither the oil industry or aircraft industry are going >>>>> to support the idea.. in reality they will do all they can discourage >>>>> the development if modern airships. This becomes even so when you add >>>>> solar panels to the mix.. especially since the development of being >>>>> able to create flexible sheets on a printing press using the correct >>>>> inks.. >>>>> It becomes not difficult to visualize airships that are totally >>>>> solar powered.. even available to separate the noble gasses needed. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 4:06 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>> >>>>> Buoyant gases- such as Ammonia, Hydrogen, Methane, Helium, Nitrogen, >>>>> etc. do not require liquidation in order to reduce lift, with the >>>>> exception >>>>> of Ammonia as a lift gas, due to the ease of doing just that. But Ammonia >>>>> has only 40% the lift of Hydrogen, and is caustic. It’s been rejected as >>>>> a >>>>> lift gas, at least with current technologies. >>>>> >>>>> But I digress. Some actually do propose compression of the lift gas as >>>>> a means of controlling lift- Aeros has even flown a full-sized airship >>>>> that >>>>> has done just that. It is one of their Helium advertizing airships, >>>>> modified to house the COSH(Control Of Static Heaviness) system as a >>>>> testbed >>>>> for their new DARPA hybrid Zeppelin, the PELICAN. The Pelican itself is >>>>> designed to be able to control lift in all modes of flight, through >>>>> either >>>>> compression of the Helium or heating the Helium. This does not require >>>>> liquefaction for the very simple reason that the gases derive their >>>>> buoyancy from being slightly less dense than the atmosphere, and all >>>>> gases >>>>> are very easily compressible, unlike water. It requires roughly as much >>>>> pressure as a bicycle tire to completely negate the lift of Helium, for >>>>> instance. The hull of a modern airship consists of composites of Kevlar, >>>>> Tedlar, Mylar, Vectran, Nylon, and other coatings. It’s layered and >>>>> almost >>>>> completely impermeable; some hulls only lose 3% of their volume PER >>>>> ANNUM. >>>>> Secondly, the compression system on the PELICAN- thus far the only one in >>>>> existence- relies on ballonets within the envelope. Any minute quantities >>>>> of gas that DOES escape would just escape into the low-pressure hull. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:47:36 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I sucked those sophisticated eggs some time ago. So what is >>>>>> the cost of compression? Fridges do it so some spreadsheet jockey will >>>>>> know the score. Cold fusion works if you ain't worried about the >>>>>> electric >>>>>> bill. Elastic is prone to snap in prolonged use. Our grand plan to cure >>>>>> global warming and at least four other more important environmental >>>>>> disasters, sound in theory, may fall at the "hayperth" of tar level - >>>>>> not >>>>>> that hot tar sounds good for sealing hydrogen bags. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm watching a convalescent western, 'The Trail to Hope Rose'. It >>>>>> has Lou 'Hard Carbon Copy' Phillips and the 6 Million Dollar Man (now >>>>>> looking remarkably cheap) plus some Hope Sunshine surrogate actress. I >>>>>> couldn't enjoy it at all, if I didn't feel the presence of Gabby >>>>>> disapproving and sending me 'art house' appreciation of black rap at its >>>>>> blackest to keep me in Gagaland - though apparently she didn't turn up >>>>>> to >>>>>> do one with the dark rappers (Gaga not Gabby - though somehow this new >>>>>> phrase sounds wrong). Would your airship fleet have better television? >>>>>> RP >>>>>> would have us get the priorities right, after all/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:33:42 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You would never vent the hydrogen. But compress it back into storage >>>>>>> tanks that are able to handle hydrogen. Compressed it does not have >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> lifting power it is when it is expanded that you gain lifting power >>>>>>> exactly the same way as helium. . By recycling gas you can control >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> lifting ability.. for protection and safety you are looking at using >>>>>>> mutable gas bags. A sophisticated bunch of balloons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 2:14 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What a saint you are Allan. Air ships don't make money and in terms >>>>>>> of business plans seem to be stuck in the hot-air model. Have you >>>>>>> given >>>>>>> much thought to the expansion-contraction processes of going up and >>>>>>> coming >>>>>>> down? I fell out with Hindenburg-Nemo when he issued the order to >>>>>>> 'vent >>>>>>> the hydrogen' while he was smoking his pipe. of course, these >>>>>>> technical >>>>>>> trivialities matter little in the great scheme to have enough of >>>>>>> Allan's >>>>>>> babies up in the atmosphere to cool the planet in shadow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, 23 March 2015 10:52:00 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is true.. it could be a very productive new industry. I know >>>>>>>> what i figured out is very patentable but i am not interested in the >>>>>>>> money >>>>>>>> it is more for the benefit of humanity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:44 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The finest hour of hybrid technology. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 6:34:28 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never thought of the solar cell idea..with the fire technology has >>>>>>>>> greatly improved since the German rigid airships. They used hydrogen >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> successfully. The US had the only source of helium know at the time. >>>>>>>>> With improved technology of today hydrogen can be handled safely. >>>>>>>>> . It also has greater lifting power than helium. >>>>>>>>> Using liquid metal batteries you would be able to store excess >>>>>>>>> power from the built in solar cells to provide power for propulsion >>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>> out the night.. as well as creating replacement hydrogen. . Making >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> truly self supporting.. a great benefit in crisis situations. . >>>>>>>>> It would be amazing seeing eco friendly shipping especially one >>>>>>>>> that does not use up fuel resources. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 5:02 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Air ships could be more or less self-sustaining. Lots of the >>>>>>>>> surface area could be solar panel and hydrogen and fuel could be made >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> this power and water from clouds. We might double bag the hydrogen >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> helium or carbon dioxide bags. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:24:55 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chicken soup.. don't even need dentures.. >>>>>>>>>> Get well soon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 11:35 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Heavy cold or 'flue here - feels like I never had an idea or the >>>>>>>>>> strength to type. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 22 March 2015 19:38:29 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not really usually i wake up grab my phone and write the idea >>>>>>>>>>> down while it is fresh.. >>>>>>>>>>> You would have a hard time convincing me you have never woke up >>>>>>>>>>> with an idea in your head. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 8:18 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Much the same problem as coming back from RP's unconscious unity >>>>>>>>>>> Allan.. We could us electrodes, a drip feed and translate the >>>>>>>>>>> creative >>>>>>>>>>> brain waves. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 7:05:05 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would be nice how do you record the idea with out waking up? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 8:03 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The trick might be becoming more productive without waking up. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 22 March 2015 13:21:17 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That happens frequently to me when I am working out a design >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem for an image or literary structure for a book. I think >>>>>>>>>>>>> the state of >>>>>>>>>>>>> consciousness while sleeping that is most conducive to creativity >>>>>>>>>>>>> is more >>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible than in waking life because the constraints of logic >>>>>>>>>>>>> are lifted. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 9:11:09 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This idea has been circulating in my head ever since i saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the skycat. After the java disaster it became even more ideal as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry cargo do not need a runway.. problems like terrorist >>>>>>>>>>>>>> attacks can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be taken in stride with multi layered nitrogen filled gas >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bags.. silk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like fabric can repel bullets be absorbing the bullets energy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. hydrogen can be safely used as the lifting gas and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> readily available. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the airship could be of great benefit in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disasters as well as air transport economy. They are much >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> economical that cargo jets carrying cargo although not as fast. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do love it when the time space barrier is crossed and new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge is returned to our reality.. it is a neat feeling.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you are aware of what is happening. . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 1:38 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Rigid airships and hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love mornings like that. 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