Big hug across the divide to you, Allan. Speedy recovery. On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > The older i get the longer it takes to recover. And they run in cycles. . > Unfortunately medication is only sliwing them and cutting severity. > But that is better than raw.. > The poery is only madness running thu my head hooe it is not to crazy > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That > > A head full of soap opera, nightmare indeed. > > On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 6:45:07 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> I have a dislike for episodes. . One thing is they are not gòd for >> clarity of thought.. but one good thing it was lite. Problem is I have >> been having them for msy many years even befor I came to Europe.. i always >> thought of them as severe nightmares. >> It is good to know . . . I think.. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 4:32 PM >> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That >> >> Despite imagination Allan, I have never been able to regard meeting a >> bloke as a date. The way round this seems to be not dating in order to be >> gender balanced. Never liked the performances anyway. Tired today, i that >> 'after 'flu' way. Looking forward to dog walk being less of a trudge and >> no throbbing pains in my left eye and head. Instructions to buy Ginger >> Wine for hot toddies. >> >> I agree all that Molly and it all expands into several books - though >> really one can only create the conditions for a trail every so often. This >> would be worth talking through, though most spirits are too weak to try. >> >> I'll try again if Max leaves me any energy and the toddies don't get too >> overwhelming. May just let them. Much of what needs saying is not in the >> public domain, which is odd given how easy much of it is. >> >> On Friday, 3 April 2015 12:33:14 UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>> >>> I will take my carbon dating as a compliment as I think the age of >>> reason our downfall. We only seemed to have an inkling about how our >>> extension through technology would bring us back through it where >>> reasonable paradigms don't work for us, and as close as we can get to a >>> working model is again mystic. Not to say reason is thrown aside. It must >>> be integrated and given its mechanical function so we can move into >>> something greater, having been hijacked for too long and used in the power >>> and control games. We are more than mental, but are beaten with it until we >>> give it all up to merely survive, our self image blown to smithereens >>> >>> For too long, no one recognized the magician of the beautiful, those >>> that move naturally and leave beauty in their wake. We've lost our ability >>> to recognize beauty, having been drenched in mundane by deteriorating >>> culture and technology. But something has come of it. And there are those >>> among us that move in action of the divine principle within, and those >>> among us that can recognize the beauty that surrounds them and envelops us. >>> If we can let go of the need to know why, and move along in this action, we >>> can be taken where paradigms are no longer necessary. I am not sure if a >>> group can be carried along, or if we, moving in action of the divine >>> principle within, move with the world as it is in perfection, accepting the >>> imperfection as inherent to the divine principle, knowing the imperfection >>> is changing into perfection through the action. Maybe its always been like >>> this. Maybe it always will be. >>> >>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> I had a nice afternoon. Turned a bar in Manchester into an old-style >>>> tavern with folk singing and a free barrel of Old Peculiar. The themes >>>> were about returning to Greek and Medieval notions of rationality, which >>>> have long struck me as in need of a few beers to get into. Debate went so >>>> well I hardly needed to say anything. >>>> >>>> The Greeks were all over the place around the relevant time, in Italy >>>> and around the Med. This was the time of the of what Hans Joas dubbed >>>> "cosmic religion" of late Antiquity, a fusion of Greek cosmological >>>> speculation. Babylonian astrology, Egyptian theology, Jewish thought and >>>> popular magic. There were many attempts to translate this into political >>>> constitutions. Most of this was put to the Roman sword, and intellectuals >>>> became mystic, aspiring to find new ways to transcend earthly systems >>>> entirely, rising through planetary spheres, purging themselves of >>>> materiality to pure reason - that human reason that is simply the action >>>> of >>>> a divine principle within us. Rationality here becomes beyond spiritual >>>> to >>>> the mystical achievement of union with he divine. In the absence of >>>> Molly, >>>> we did the internal warming of Old Peculiar and some Lancashire Folk. >>>> >>>> So why look to the past like this? The simple answer is that our >>>> present is still full of it. >>>> >>>> The second area we looked at once the beer was going down was the >>>> Medieval. You need to be half-cut to take what went on then. One of the >>>> strongest features of this time concerns just how humans consider >>>> themselves superior and different to animals. We are still taught this >>>> crap as kids - 'it's rationality stupid'. Cue some cute pictures of >>>> animals problem solving and being very rational (lions hunting at night is >>>> a real killer). And a run out for Allan's soul, with a slight twist. >>>> What >>>> separates humans and animals is that humans can imagine they possess an >>>> immortal soul. If the soul is the seat of reason, to say humans are in >>>> possession of one is to say we are rational creatures. >>>> >>>> You need the top shelf now, as these forms of religiosity are the basis >>>> of bureaucracy and rationality. Descartes becomes spiritual and mystic. >>>> The question, of course, is whether we can escape. It's bank holiday >>>> here >>>> on Friday. This brings discussion of the archaeology of "heroic >>>> societies" >>>> other than just the Attic tragedy kind, as engines of the >>>> self-aggrandising >>>> story. >>>> >>>> By the end (people fly home Tuesday) we hope to be able to talk new >>>> economic, perhaps find some partnerships to write something different - or >>>> not write and think of different things to do. After a couple of pints, I >>>> was imagining dating Molly and Allan in about 500 BC to 1500 AD. >>>> >>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >
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