I think that is what they are reporting/promoting  everything is going via 
wire..
What i don't like is the lack of creative programers capitable of truly 
creative programing.. most of them are not much more than line fillers ,, 
filling in only segments. . Creative but not very original. . Creativity is 
extremely difficult. .

The eco advantages for the environment  are great.. with advances in airship 
technology will be of great advantages especially  in fuel economy .. the elite 
 of the world are recklessly using resources to the detriment  of the rest  of 
the world.. internet can become a world saver..


تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That

Failing eyesight makes the zoom feature a blessing.  I now prefer 
electronic text to paper.  Pity electronic speech is so dire and difficult 
to speed read with (some blind colleagues have got used to listening at 
speeds I can't).

I wish Molly was right on the move to something more spiritual, but 
research suggests a big physical element in electronic receptions.  I'm not 
sure the imagination button is switched on n most people, and soon we will 
have products for all kinds of physical simulation to go with the mobile. 


On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 9:50:27 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Thank you. Sleep allows the brain to reset. .  My episodes are always 
> early morning. . 5 - 7 am. Figures other than to me they are very boring. .
> As it is adult onset..  i am wondering if my smart phones ae part of the 
> problem.
>  If i really  want to read a document  i prefer a combo of paper / 
> electronic..
> I like human content. . My preference a cuppa coffee / tea sitting  
> around  a table talking with friends. . The Internet will do. And is nice 
> for long distances.. and is convenient as you can answer when up.. i always 
> turn my phone to airplane mode while sleeping. 
>
> I do think the internet is slowly down the ability  to think.. to much us 
> being passed off as truth when in reality  it is a lot of cut and paste ..  
> i am left wondering if the are not basting a idea from a bad recipe. 
>
> BOO...
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Molly <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That
>
> Big hug across the divide to you, Allan. Speedy recovery.
>
> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> The older i get the longer it takes to recover. And they run in cycles. . 
>> Unfortunately  medication is only sliwing them and cutting  severity.
>> But that is better than raw..
>> The poery is only madness  running thu my head hooe it is not to crazy
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That
>>
>> A head full of soap opera, nightmare indeed.
>>
>> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 6:45:07 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a dislike for episodes. . One thing is they are not gòd for 
>>> clarity of thought..  but one good thing it was lite.  Problem is I  have  
>>> been having them for msy many years even befor I came to Europe.. i always 
>>> thought of them as severe nightmares.
>>> It is good to know . . . I think..
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 4:32 PM
>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That
>>>
>>> Despite imagination Allan, I have never been able to regard meeting a 
>>> bloke as a date. The way round this seems to be not dating in order to be 
>>> gender balanced.  Never liked the performances anyway.  Tired today, i that 
>>> 'after 'flu' way.  Looking forward to dog walk being less of a trudge and 
>>> no throbbing pains in my left eye and head.  Instructions to buy Ginger 
>>> Wine for hot toddies.
>>>
>>> I agree all that Molly and it all expands into several books - though 
>>> really one can only create the conditions for a trail every so often.  This 
>>> would be worth talking through, though most spirits are too weak to try.
>>>
>>> I'll try again if Max leaves me any energy and the toddies don't get too 
>>> overwhelming.  May just let them.  Much of what needs saying is not in the 
>>> public domain, which is odd given how easy much of it is.
>>>
>>> On Friday, 3 April 2015 12:33:14 UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will take my carbon dating as a compliment as I think the age of 
>>>> reason our downfall. We only seemed to have an inkling about how our 
>>>> extension through technology would bring us back through it where 
>>>> reasonable paradigms don't work for us, and as close as we can get to a 
>>>> working model is again mystic. Not to say reason is thrown aside. It must 
>>>> be integrated and given its mechanical function so we can move into 
>>>> something greater, having been hijacked for too long and used in the power 
>>>> and control games. We are more than mental, but are beaten with it until 
>>>> we 
>>>> give it all up to merely survive, our self image blown to smithereens 
>>>>
>>>> For too long, no one recognized the magician of the beautiful, those 
>>>> that move naturally and leave beauty in their wake. We've lost our ability 
>>>> to recognize beauty, having been drenched in mundane by deteriorating 
>>>> culture and technology. But something has come of it. And there are those 
>>>> among us that move in action of the divine principle within, and those 
>>>> among us that can recognize the beauty that surrounds them and envelops 
>>>> us. 
>>>> If we can let go of the need to know why, and move along in this action, 
>>>> we 
>>>> can be taken where paradigms are no longer necessary. I am not sure if a 
>>>> group can be carried along, or if we, moving in action of the divine 
>>>> principle within, move with the world as it is in perfection, accepting 
>>>> the 
>>>> imperfection as inherent to the divine principle, knowing the imperfection 
>>>> is changing into perfection through the action. Maybe its always been like 
>>>> this. Maybe it always will be.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a nice afternoon.  Turned a bar in Manchester into an old-style 
>>>>> tavern with folk singing and a free barrel of Old Peculiar.  The themes 
>>>>> were about returning to Greek and Medieval notions of rationality, which 
>>>>> have long struck me as in need of a few beers to get into.  Debate went 
>>>>> so 
>>>>> well I hardly needed to say anything.  
>>>>>
>>>>> The Greeks were all over the place around the relevant time, in Italy 
>>>>> and around the Med.  This was the time of the of what Hans Joas dubbed 
>>>>> "cosmic religion" of late Antiquity, a fusion of Greek cosmological 
>>>>> speculation. Babylonian astrology, Egyptian theology, Jewish thought and 
>>>>> popular magic.  There were many attempts to translate this into political 
>>>>> constitutions.  Most of this was put to the Roman sword, and 
>>>>> intellectuals 
>>>>> became mystic, aspiring to find new ways to transcend earthly systems 
>>>>> entirely, rising through planetary spheres, purging themselves of 
>>>>> materiality to pure reason - that human reason that is simply the action 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> a divine principle within us.  Rationality here becomes beyond spiritual 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> the mystical achievement of union with he divine.  In the absence of 
>>>>> Molly, 
>>>>> we did the internal warming of Old Peculiar and some Lancashire Folk.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why look to the past like this?  The simple answer is that our 
>>>>> present is still full of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second area we looked at once the beer was going down was the 
>>>>> Medieval.  You need to be half-cut to take what went on then.  One of the 
>>>>> strongest features of this time concerns just how humans consider 
>>>>> themselves superior and different to animals.  We are still taught this 
>>>>> crap as kids - 'it's rationality stupid'.  Cue some cute pictures of 
>>>>> animals problem solving and being very rational (lions hunting at night 
>>>>> is 
>>>>> a real killer).  And a run out for Allan's soul, with a slight twist.  
>>>>> What 
>>>>> separates humans and animals is that humans can imagine they possess an 
>>>>> immortal soul.  If the soul is the seat of reason, to say humans are in 
>>>>> possession of one is to say we are rational creatures.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need the top shelf now, as these forms of religiosity are the 
>>>>> basis of bureaucracy and rationality.  Descartes becomes spiritual and 
>>>>> mystic.  The question, of course, is whether we can escape.  It's bank 
>>>>> holiday here on Friday.  This brings discussion of the archaeology of 
>>>>> "heroic societies" other than just the Attic tragedy kind, as engines of 
>>>>> the self-aggrandising story.  
>>>>>
>>>>> By the end (people fly home Tuesday) we hope to be able to talk new 
>>>>> economic, perhaps find some partnerships to write something different - 
>>>>> or 
>>>>> not write and think of different things to do.  After a couple of pints, 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> was imagining dating Molly and Allan in about 500 BC to 1500 AD.   
>>>>>
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