I can't be broke. People are still willing to lend me money. I can't be broke. I still have all these checks.
I can't be broke. How am I supposed to feed my keeeds? On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:37 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Economists > Turned to inner poet > Words spoken > > Clearly > Smiling I understood > Every word > > Muggleness > Vanishing with every word > Economics is alive > > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That > > Almost poetry of modern monetary theory: > > Pondering here from my academic station > Why has never before such a simple observation > Caused more confusion and consternation > Amongst the general population > > That the government is the currency-issuing monopolist > Is not a radical idea, nor a hypothesis > It is a simple, nay, elementary fact > That is often so fervently attacked > > IT conjures fears of hyperinflation > The dread of every civilized nation > A crippling phobia that stunts our facilities > To rationally think about the economic possibilities > > Pundits, economists, and the average bloke > Firmly believe that the U.S. government is broke > And defend this dreadful and deadly mythology > “There Is NO Alternative,” they say, without an apology > > Inequality, retirement insecurity, mass unemployment > Environmental blight, pay gap, and other disappointments > Are no longer problems intractable, alarming and eerie > With a brief introduction to Modern Monetary Theory > > On Sunday, 5 April 2015 07:25:08 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Poetry fills >> Imaginary reality world >> Ideals expressed >> >> Politics finds >> Twisted words selling >> Non existance >> >> Dreams >> Words of inner >> Thought >> >> Letters counting >> Toward >> Complete expression >> >> Life inside >> Imaginary society >> People >> >> Complete >> Each soul carrying >> Inner poetry >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 11:41 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That >> >> There is no desiring without imagination. (Aristotle, De Anima, 433b p. >> 29) >> I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the Heart’s affections and >> the truth of the Imagination. (John Keats, Letter to Benjamin Bailey, 22 >> November 1817) >> Why could we not start by positing a dream, a poem, a symphony as >> paradigmatic of the fullness of being and by seeing in the physical world a >> different mode of being, instead of looking at things the other way round, >> instead of seeing in the imaginary – that is, human – mode of existence, a >> deficient or secondary mode of being? (Cornelius Castoriadis, The Imaginary >> Institution of Society, 1987, p. 5) >> >> In Castoriadis’s own words: ‘what makes a word what it is, meaning-wise, >> is its overtones, its resonances and >> consonances’ (Castoriadis, 2007, p. 43). He offers a very illustrative >> example of the creative potentiality >> of such melodic overtones in his analysis of Shakespearean texts and the >> poetry of Rilke: >> The melody of the meaning is the horizontal relation between the meanings >> and the intensity of the >> particular words in their succession, which already in itself contains a >> harmonic component. For, just as, >> when one hears the end of a melody, its musical substance includes what >> preceded it, so the deployment of >> the meaning in a poetic phrase, which constitutes in itself a temporal >> form, culminates in a term that is >> what it is only as a function of everything that came beforehand. The >> harmony of the meaning seems to be, >> strictly speaking, an illogical expression, since harmony is the >> consonance of several voices and because >> the poem – more generally, a linguistic expression – seems monodic. But >> there is harmony because there >> are harmonics of the words’ significations… >> And continues: >> [harmony is] certainly inseparable from the listener, from the concrete >> audience, but this is also and >> especially ‘impersonally’ deposited in language. A word can function in >> language only by means of these >> indefinite referrals, each one of which engages and sets in motion other >> referrals. The harmonic richness >> of a line is made from the richness of the referrals of the words that >> compose it. (Castoriadis, 2007, p. 71) >> >> The metaphorical force of ‘narrowly imagined’ concepts such as that of >> ‘growth’ in economics, regarding our ability to break with established >> political economy frames. Lakoff (2010), a cognitive linguist, argues that >> a real break with those frames can only exist in the employment of a >> radically different metaphorical frame that goes beyond negation (evidenced >> in anti-growth policies) or appropriation (as is often the case in green >> growth), but rather posits entirely new concepts for guiding policy, such >> as that of well-being. >> >> Organizations are imagined not merely in the sense that what shapes them >> is ‘known but cannot be told’ (Castoriadis, 1987, p. 43) or ‘be made >> explicit’, but that what is known is actually and continuously represented, >> signified and affected by those making up the organization. Some of these >> representations/significations/affects are indeed explicit and may >> include scientific data and mathematical figures. Yet it is not our >> inability to ‘translate’ that stifles creative imagination in practice, but >> a failure of individuals, organizations and societies to lucidly recognize >> their ownership of those figures/meanings/ emotions. This radical position >> is at the heart of the Castoriadian notion of imagination: creativity is >> already there, albeit hand in hand with the obfuscation that prevents its >> lucid recognition in the psyche and society. It also enables us to >> re-signify and reimagine organizations and organizing differently, >> suggesting that critique is not all we have in dealing with these limits. >> Through the Castoriadian ontology we are better able to imagine the form >> that such reconfigurations might take in organizing, not simply as a >> challenge of instituted (individualized, ‘psychologized’, or rationalized) >> reality, but moreover as active carriers of new legitimacies, creating >> organizational contexts that ‘search for their own foundations’ >> >> I knew this Greek guy and he played a mean piano. >> Castoriadis, C. (1987). The imaginary institution of society. Cambridge: >> Polity. >> Lakoff, G. (2010). Why it matters how we frame the environment. >> Environmental Communication, 4(1), 70–81. >> >> Not everything that comes out of the imagination is good. Most can't >> even do critique (imagining it negative) let alone get to 'imagine that' on >> how a new scenario might work. Science has been working for a couple of >> centuries by excluding dull idiots like the worst religionists and >> politicians from the laboratory. Getting people out of the way to progress >> society in general is tougher. Give them the chance to choose between >> Democrat and GOP and they imagine they are free. Ho, ho ho ... >> >> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 9:43:29 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>> >>> There are a lot of books about on more imaginative approaches. This is >>> typical: >>> Releasing the Imagination: Essays on Education, the Arts, and Social >>> Change. The Jossey-Bass Education Series. >>> Greene, Maxine >>> The essays in this book are the author's attempt to connect her own >>> seeking with the strivings of other teachers and teacher educators who are >>> tired of a self-centered, technocratic existence and who want to enhance >>> their understanding of diversity. The essays concentrate on imagination as >>> a means through which to assemble a coherent world, because imagination is >>> what makes empathy possible and what allows people to enter others' worlds >>> (e.g., through poetry or music). Moving from an account of school >>> restructuring to a rendering of the shapes of literacy, the book examines >>> the processes of human questioning and resistance to meaninglessness. Part >>> 1, "Creating Possibilities," includes: (1) "Seeking Contexts"; (2) >>> "Imagination, Breakthroughs, and the Unexpected"; (3) "Imagination, >>> Community, and the School"; (4) "Discovering a Pedagogy"; (5) "Social >>> Vision and the Dance of Life"; and (6) "The Shapes of Childhood Recalled." >>> Part 2, "Illuminations and Epiphanies," includes: (7) "The Continuing >>> Search for Curriculum"; (8) "Writing To Learn"; (9) "Teaching for >>> Openings"; (10) "Art and Imagination"; and (11) "Texts and Margins." Part >>> 3, "Community in the Making," includes: (12) "The Passions of Pluralism"; >>> (13) "Standards, Common Learnings, and Diversity"; and (14) "Multiple >>> Voices and Multiple Realities." (SM) >>> No doubt I should be ashamed to know even this a a scientist. A mug >>> like me just looks for the on and off switches. >>> >>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 6:27:08 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> I think that is what they are reporting/promoting everything is going >>>> via wire.. >>>> What i don't like is the lack of creative programers capitable of truly >>>> creative programing.. most of them are not much more than line fillers ,, >>>> filling in only segments. . Creative but not very original. . Creativity is >>>> extremely difficult. . >>>> >>>> The eco advantages for the environment are great.. with advances in >>>> airship technology will be of great advantages especially in fuel economy >>>> .. the elite of the world are recklessly using resources to the detriment >>>> of the rest of the world.. internet can become a world saver.. >>>> >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 6:09 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That >>>> >>>> Failing eyesight makes the zoom feature a blessing. I now prefer >>>> electronic text to paper. Pity electronic speech is so dire and difficult >>>> to speed read with (some blind colleagues have got used to listening at >>>> speeds I can't). >>>> >>>> I wish Molly was right on the move to something more spiritual, but >>>> research suggests a big physical element in electronic receptions. I'm not >>>> sure the imagination button is switched on n most people, and soon we will >>>> have products for all kinds of physical simulation to go with the mobile. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 9:50:27 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. Sleep allows the brain to reset. . My episodes are always >>>>> early morning. . 5 - 7 am. Figures other than to me they are very boring. >>>>> . >>>>> As it is adult onset.. i am wondering if my smart phones ae part of >>>>> the problem. >>>>> If i really want to read a document i prefer a combo of paper / >>>>> electronic.. >>>>> I like human content. . My preference a cuppa coffee / tea sitting >>>>> around a table talking with friends. . The Internet will do. And is nice >>>>> for long distances.. and is convenient as you can answer when up.. i >>>>> always >>>>> turn my phone to airplane mode while sleeping. >>>>> >>>>> I do think the internet is slowly down the ability to think.. to much >>>>> us being passed off as truth when in reality it is a lot of cut and paste >>>>> .. i am left wondering if the are not basting a idea from a bad recipe. >>>>> >>>>> BOO... >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 9:06 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That >>>>> >>>>> Big hug across the divide to you, Allan. Speedy recovery. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The older i get the longer it takes to recover. And they run in >>>>>> cycles. . Unfortunately medication is only sliwing them and cutting >>>>>> severity. >>>>>> But that is better than raw.. >>>>>> The poery is only madness running thu my head hooe it is not to crazy >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:48 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That >>>>>> >>>>>> A head full of soap opera, nightmare indeed. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 6:45:07 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a dislike for episodes. . One thing is they are not gòd for >>>>>>> clarity of thought.. but one good thing it was lite. Problem is I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> been having them for msy many years even befor I came to Europe.. i >>>>>>> always >>>>>>> thought of them as severe nightmares. >>>>>>> It is good to know . . . I think.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 4:32 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Imagine That >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Despite imagination Allan, I have never been able to regard meeting >>>>>>> a bloke as a date. The way round this seems to be not dating in order >>>>>>> to be >>>>>>> gender balanced. Never liked the performances anyway. Tired today, i >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> 'after 'flu' way. Looking forward to dog walk being less of a trudge >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> no throbbing pains in my left eye and head. Instructions to buy Ginger >>>>>>> Wine for hot toddies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree all that Molly and it all expands into several books - >>>>>>> though really one can only create the conditions for a trail every so >>>>>>> often. This would be worth talking through, though most spirits are too >>>>>>> weak to try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll try again if Max leaves me any energy and the toddies don't get >>>>>>> too overwhelming. May just let them. Much of what needs saying is not >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the public domain, which is odd given how easy much of it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, 3 April 2015 12:33:14 UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will take my carbon dating as a compliment as I think the age of >>>>>>>> reason our downfall. We only seemed to have an inkling about how our >>>>>>>> extension through technology would bring us back through it where >>>>>>>> reasonable paradigms don't work for us, and as close as we can get to a >>>>>>>> working model is again mystic. Not to say reason is thrown aside. It >>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>> be integrated and given its mechanical function so we can move into >>>>>>>> something greater, having been hijacked for too long and used in the >>>>>>>> power >>>>>>>> and control games. We are more than mental, but are beaten with it >>>>>>>> until we >>>>>>>> give it all up to merely survive, our self image blown to smithereens >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For too long, no one recognized the magician of the beautiful, >>>>>>>> those that move naturally and leave beauty in their wake. We've lost >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> ability to recognize beauty, having been drenched in mundane by >>>>>>>> deteriorating culture and technology. But something has come of it. And >>>>>>>> there are those among us that move in action of the divine principle >>>>>>>> within, and those among us that can recognize the beauty that surrounds >>>>>>>> them and envelops us. If we can let go of the need to know why, and >>>>>>>> move >>>>>>>> along in this action, we can be taken where paradigms are no longer >>>>>>>> necessary. I am not sure if a group can be carried along, or if we, >>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>> in action of the divine principle within, move with the world as it is >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> perfection, accepting the imperfection as inherent to the divine >>>>>>>> principle, >>>>>>>> knowing the imperfection is changing into perfection through the >>>>>>>> action. >>>>>>>> Maybe its always been like this. Maybe it always will be. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had a nice afternoon. Turned a bar in Manchester into an >>>>>>>>> old-style tavern with folk singing and a free barrel of Old Peculiar. >>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>> themes were about returning to Greek and Medieval notions of >>>>>>>>> rationality, >>>>>>>>> which have long struck me as in need of a few beers to get into. >>>>>>>>> Debate >>>>>>>>> went so well I hardly needed to say anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Greeks were all over the place around the relevant time, in >>>>>>>>> Italy and around the Med. This was the time of the of what Hans Joas >>>>>>>>> dubbed "cosmic religion" of late Antiquity, a fusion of Greek >>>>>>>>> cosmological >>>>>>>>> speculation. Babylonian astrology, Egyptian theology, Jewish thought >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> popular magic. There were many attempts to translate this into >>>>>>>>> political >>>>>>>>> constitutions. Most of this was put to the Roman sword, and >>>>>>>>> intellectuals >>>>>>>>> became mystic, aspiring to find new ways to transcend earthly systems >>>>>>>>> entirely, rising through planetary spheres, purging themselves of >>>>>>>>> materiality to pure reason - that human reason that is simply the >>>>>>>>> action of >>>>>>>>> a divine principle within us. Rationality here becomes beyond >>>>>>>>> spiritual to >>>>>>>>> the mystical achievement of union with he divine. In the absence of >>>>>>>>> Molly, >>>>>>>>> we did the internal warming of Old Peculiar and some Lancashire Folk. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So why look to the past like this? The simple answer is that our >>>>>>>>> present is still full of it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The second area we looked at once the beer was going down was the >>>>>>>>> Medieval. You need to be half-cut to take what went on then. One of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> strongest features of this time concerns just how humans consider >>>>>>>>> themselves superior and different to animals. We are still taught >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> crap as kids - 'it's rationality stupid'. Cue some cute pictures of >>>>>>>>> animals problem solving and being very rational (lions hunting at >>>>>>>>> night is >>>>>>>>> a real killer). And a run out for Allan's soul, with a slight twist. >>>>>>>>> What >>>>>>>>> separates humans and animals is that humans can imagine they possess >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> immortal soul. If the soul is the seat of reason, to say humans are >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> possession of one is to say we are rational creatures. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You need the top shelf now, as these forms of religiosity are the >>>>>>>>> basis of bureaucracy and rationality. Descartes becomes spiritual and >>>>>>>>> mystic. The question, of course, is whether we can escape. It's bank >>>>>>>>> holiday here on Friday. This brings discussion of the archaeology of >>>>>>>>> "heroic societies" other than just the Attic tragedy kind, as engines >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> the self-aggrandising story. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> By the end (people fly home Tuesday) we hope to be able to talk >>>>>>>>> new economic, perhaps find some partnerships to write something >>>>>>>>> different - >>>>>>>>> or not write and think of different things to do. After a couple of >>>>>>>>> pints, >>>>>>>>> I was imagining dating Molly and Allan in about 500 BC to 1500 AD. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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