Only flights to Rotterdam are from London City. Might think of Schipol plus hire car later in the year or maybe ferry plus car from Hull.
On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 9:54:26 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Milk is not a problem. . Inlaws use the stuff .. me i prefer my milk as > milk guess that is my old dairy preference. . > Like my coffee black hot or cold doesn't matter as long as it is black.. > good ol cuppa joe.. could not easily get milk in the navy so go had black > coffee. Developed the taste for it from midnight watches. (Inspection > avoidance) can make tea anyway you like it.. have some great chinese lotus > tea which not bad. Thew out a buch of black Turkish tea because i never > drink it.. me i like mint tea plus a few others . Tea needs sweeting > (song driven: you work all day forvthe suger in your tea) can get by but > prefer it.. have a drawer full of teas.. so there should Rotterdam's > airport is closer.. you might be able to catch a flight there from > England.. schipol is a painin the but.. train and ferry is other options.. > > Ah coffee and tea wit friends. . One of the finer events in life. Great > way to discuss "Time". Very leasurely. > > > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:07 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time > > Strong tea, mashed for more than five minutes in a pot, is generally best. > Brown with fresh milk in last. Some Russian teas are good black. Other > herbal teas are horrible, as is green tea to my taste. Can't be doing with > tea rituals. Coffee needs a lot of hot milk. Neither should be drunk with > sugar. We have a Tassimo for Sue and a milk frother. In need of a teapot. > > Both drinks fail the fair trade test. Instant tea and powdered egg for > breakfast is a cruel and unusual punishment. We haven't even got cafe > service of coffee right in the UK. I used to like a great big bowl of the > stuff, black with a spoon, in France and it was good with cognac at 6 am > too. I hear all are better taken on airships with friends ... > > > > On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 7:47:57 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> See you soon. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Molly <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 7:43 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >> >> I'll be right over. >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:40:04 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> Tea preference? . We fresh grind each cup. Espresso which uses the same >>> amount of grounds but half the water. >>> >>> Coffee. Keeps you awake.. lucky you.. me too sometimes.. we use doughe >>> egberts 10. Almost the strongest. I am not a fan of brown water.. but like >>> a strong cup of coffee. . Luud and I both like our coffee black so tgere is >>> no problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 6:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>> >>> My throat and sinuses hurt so much right now tea is a welcome friend. >>> Otherwise, I prefer coffee, but only in the morning. I like my sleep too >>> much. >>> >>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:25:38 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> My coffee machine can be used to make a great tea. Preferance? >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 6:14 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>> >>>> Mud and Arab coffee probably have more water than you Allan, but I >>>> don't drink them! >>>> >>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 4:46:14 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well if you like water you already like 72% of me. (",) >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 3:04 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>> >>>>> Clarity is a strange business. The language of being clear, >>>>> resembling being bleached or de-loused in Scientology, dominates much of >>>>> social research in needing to be pre-suppositionless, not to contaminate >>>>> the research situation and hundreds of other terms such as 'hermeneutics >>>>> guarantees truth'. This is all to be done by 'objects' that carry more >>>>> other organisms around with them than cells with their own DNA. >>>>> >>>>> Screws change directions on boats. This may be what saves the boat >>>>> from ending-up on the rocks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 1:14:04 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay no soul just the eternal mind. . >>>>>> Sorry I screwed things up for you >>>>>> Neil what was this beginning of clarity? >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 2:08 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not suggesting any of us are Scientologists in any direct sense. >>>>>> Though when we talk of rationality, clarity and other impossible >>>>>> ideal-types forgetting they are ideals, we share something with such >>>>>> lunacy. Of course, it isn't long before Allan screws up any chance of >>>>>> clarity, saving ourselves from ourselves with his up-the-sleeve soul >>>>>> forever-undefined-curing-all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I rather liked the idea that whatever we did was accessible to other >>>>>> people, whatever 'condition' they were in. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:12:41 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suppose that's where the "father, forgive them for they know not >>>>>>> what they do" advise comes in Neil. Even with people motivated by >>>>>>> criminal >>>>>>> intent, they don't really understand the magnificence of the life >>>>>>> they've >>>>>>> been given and how they squander it. I grew weary of letting the ills >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> humanity upset me log ago and have mostly let go of it, although >>>>>>> occasionally fall back into dismay over it. That dismay interferes with >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> reverent feelings for life's wonders, so, eventually, I can again see >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> wisdom in letting go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And even though, when in the throes of a virus, it is hard to >>>>>>> remember the wonder, I do manage to find it every day. Even in a post >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> says "human society has little in it I would choose," because it allows >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> a kindred spirit. There is more to life than what human society holds >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> although at times it is difficult to see deeper or beyond, once done, >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> also seems so simple to do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 3:30:16 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Time is still a question.. but i do see an interconnection.. and >>>>>>>> also Molly's friends.. RP sent me an email saying he wants back in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have friends who were involved with scientology. . They do a lot >>>>>>>> of brain washing. And bad creating lots of problems .. from what the >>>>>>>> movie >>>>>>>> was saying is time is a perspective .. it seems to be a series of >>>>>>>> markers >>>>>>>> of the past ~ present . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The present moment is elusive as as as soon as you read this it is >>>>>>>> already past.. as for the soul how does time interconnect with >>>>>>>> economics? >>>>>>>> That is your speciality. . I always thought that when you look at from >>>>>>>> different perspectives (booooo!) it helps in expanding and enlighting >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> concepts escaping from the lectures. . >>>>>>>> The effect if time on present day economic practice.. perfect for >>>>>>>> perspective time snapshots.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lol. Where is the new camp ground? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 4:06 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Allan's brief mention of time, before scuttling back into his >>>>>>>> soul-shell, might have something in it. There is only so much time >>>>>>>> one can >>>>>>>> lend to various ventures. I have developed an interest in the more >>>>>>>> honest >>>>>>>> creatures of this earth and find it easy to put time in there. I have >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> led (I hope led) to a view that human society is severely disabled and >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> little in it I would choose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scientology" is both a criminal organisation (an interesting in >>>>>>>> that we struggle to treat it as such) and a glaring example of wider, >>>>>>>> crude >>>>>>>> religious practices everywhere. I fancy what most people have assumed >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be rationality over the years is, in fact, something similarly crude >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> more of medieval time than anything modern. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We should upsticks Molly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:13:45 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scientology is one of those deadly Kool Aid cults with an enormous >>>>>>>>> amount of money behind the effort. It took a small bit of Hermetic >>>>>>>>> philosophy, as old as written history, added methods of control and >>>>>>>>> brainwashing, threw in shunning and voila, you have something worth >>>>>>>>> grabbing your children and your assets and running at least a >>>>>>>>> thousand >>>>>>>>> miles to get away from (Katie Holmes. >>>>>>>>> Having its roots in Hermetic philosophy legitimizes it to its >>>>>>>>> constituents because these same concepts have been echoed throughout >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> ages. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not sure where you stand on the concept of soul, Neil. My biggest >>>>>>>>> worry for this group is that it is wobbling on a failing platform >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> leaves it open to wackos and trolls. this makes it hard for a small >>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>> dialogue to survive. Maybe it is too boring without a bundle of >>>>>>>>> alters of >>>>>>>>> one deeply disturbed person constantly arguing with themselves. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's not really surprising time in this group has been so >>>>>>>>>> medieval. Rationality has been conflated with morality, thinking >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> spirituality (very Descartes) and legitimation with the >>>>>>>>>> supernatural. Some >>>>>>>>>> of the action hasn't been that distanced from Scientology. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:29:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Love always creats a special bond between souls.. you an I both >>>>>>>>>>> know souls are eternal she is doing what she needs. All I can say >>>>>>>>>>> is for >>>>>>>>>>> her to follow her soul.. the soul can find the path if given a >>>>>>>>>>> chance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 4:54 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have a dear friend whose husband languishes in the hospital >>>>>>>>>>> right now in his last days on earth. She holds his hand and >>>>>>>>>>> wonders, as we >>>>>>>>>>> all do during times like these, about the "time" we are given in >>>>>>>>>>> this life >>>>>>>>>>> with those we love. Sometimes, it seems to be cut too short and I >>>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>>> wonder if this isn't the workings of soul, as we are connected >>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>> eternally to those we love most. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 6:32:05 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Love watching the sun rise.. sailing creates strange >>>>>>>>>>>> perspectives. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:15 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I stop watching the clock, sunrise and sunset still give a >>>>>>>>>>>> pace of time to my day. The seasons give a broader pace. We age in >>>>>>>>>>>> time. We >>>>>>>>>>>> measure change with time. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 2:35:15 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in my younger days the book that gave the value of cars >>>>>>>>>>>>> was actually blue. Hence the name.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> See Tony even I can take leaps forward into reality.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> lol. (",) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 8:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds really deep Tony - maybe we should leave it buried? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality has taken a leap forward with Allan recognising a book >>>>>>>>>>>>> plug as a >>>>>>>>>>>>> book plug. Soon he will be able to tell us a blue book is blue >>>>>>>>>>>>> (which it >>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't). We don't know there is a reality. There is a reality >>>>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Get real people! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 5:33:19 PM UTC+1, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time is an abstraction, a non quantifiable human invention >>>>>>>>>>>>>> used for measurement. Said more simply, it is not the substance >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> flask. Outside of human conjecture time does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did watch the movie. Interesting reminded me of a book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promotion. . And we actually have heard the same logic from RP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hindu God.. did not agree with that argument either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end there was a promotion for his book. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He gets into a lot of Einstein concepts on time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening to him and the other program. Time is evasive and a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective. A perspective unique to each person. . The one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently physics can not prove is the exsistance if time. . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlike the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusions people these people want to jump to.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would seem to me that all our souls are responsible for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the perspective known by the unique soul inside the reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of non-time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿known? to exist within the reality of time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which gets back to the original question just what the heck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:47 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was in my mailbox (interestingly enough) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw <https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 4:03:34 PM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is time. I always thouhght of it as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constant.. only to find it is a veriable .. unlike other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veriables.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is ¿Time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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