Good to hear from you Don.

Avoid: Murder, Rape and enslavement of others.
On Jul 8, 2015 10:04 PM, "Don Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Seems I'm way late to this party but had to add something. "Big Girl" as i
> would understand it used in context, of course, could mean a large young
> woman. Not necessarily a pejorative. After all, Gordita, in the Spanish,
> means fat. But it is also a term of endearment and appreciation for a
> little extra chub in your woman. Cushion for the pushin' as the saying
> goes. As Molly noted; it's all about the culture you're in and what your
> complexion is. White boys should just keep our mouths shut and our wallets
> open.
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Hold up, now, there has to be SOME understanding of colloquial use of
>> language if there's any hope to achieve common ground. "Big boy" and "Big
>> girl" are very much colloquial ways to describe someone who is grown up and
>> capable of taking care of themselves. It's not specifically gendered for
>> the purpose of gender, and it's not the same casual usage of "girl" which
>> causes offense to those sensitive to such.
>>
>> The language police have become much more aggressive, I see.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Allan, calling a woman a girl is well known to be gender insensitive. If
>>> you don't think so, suggest you brush up or this may not be the last time
>>> you are called out for it. If indeed we are all supportive for human
>>> rights, we can bring ourselves to be sensitive to what the other feels when
>>> bearing the brunt of our words. Here in the states, calling a man a boy can
>>> get you in a great deal of trouble depending on the color of your skin and
>>> the region that your feet are currently planted upon. Words do matter, and
>>> claiming what is said is said in jest or is insignificant is an age old way
>>> to discount the reality of inequity, and always shows itself to be exactly
>>> what it is to people with attitudes that truly support human rights. So
>>> many of our words come to us through social conditioning, we don't
>>> understand the origin or inequity. It is incumbent on each of us to try.
>>> Tolerance of biased or abusive attitudes creates cultures of inequity.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me all " big girl " is saying is she is an adult and of female
>>>> gender.. nothing more.. unless may be grow up.  No different some one
>>>> telling me I am a big boy..
>>>>
>>>> But if i say the sun is shining Gabby is offended.. if she is offended
>>>> i will stop using it..
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I have to go with Gabby on this one. Calling her a big girl is
>>>> gender insensitive and demeaning.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:27:40 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to find out why our big girl Gabby is so bothered be me??
>>>> Is Gabby's soul felling a bit guilty over what..that is a real question..
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have false teeth by any chance Gabby?  If so, could you have a
>>>> second set made, then you could leave them in situ after biting his ass,
>>>> and save the rest of us from the thiedium?
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:05:11 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Big girl - that's not my wording, not my style, not how I view myself.
>>>> It's true, I was trying to make a constructive suggestion to get us out
>>>> of your barking at us and twisting our words to draw the focus of attention
>>>> to your soul perspective. Can you think of another solution so we others do
>>>> not have to constantly feel attacked?
>>>>
>>>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>>
>>>> If you want the topic opened, open it Gabby. You keep telling me you
>>>> are a big girl..
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 2:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>>>
>>>> Soul is a place holder for "guilty conscious" in this context here, I
>>>> suppose. I suggest you open a thread with the header "soul" and you collect
>>>> all the different meanings you have identified us others associate with it.
>>>> We would also profit from it by being able to go there when in need of
>>>> translation options for your "soul" usage. And you could be sure it was
>>>> your very own translation that is being used by the others. What do you
>>>> think?
>>>>
>>>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>>
>>>> When people do wrong knowing they justify it because their soul knows
>>>> it is wrong and they should not be doing it.
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>>>
>>>> Sure Allan, but these criminals seek excuses to justify themselves to
>>>> others and themselves. As a matter of fact there is no excuse for any crime
>>>> and a criminal has to bear the consequences of his act.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no justification for rape in any form or of any gender.
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 3:36 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>>>>
>>>> The women dressing sense developed in the west gradually and it was not
>>>> copying others but an indigenous matter and as it was a gradual process the
>>>> western society as a whole was able to accept it. But in India it was not
>>>> so, some educated girls started copying the west and Indian society as a
>>>> whole was not prepared for it, and that is the reason that some backward
>>>> sections of our society find it unacceptable, but still it has nothing to
>>>> do with rape, which is a criminal act and done by criminal people. The
>>>> reasons that such people give for it is just a justification for their
>>>> criminal deed and not the real reason.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The argument that there are rapes in India because girls are not raised
>>>> up as equals with comparison to boys is not correct. If today girls are
>>>> entering into the workforce is not as a result of girls asserting
>>>> themselves but because their families are giving them a chance to make a
>>>> career for themselves. The parents, brothers, and husbands are co-operating
>>>> with the girls, they are encouraging the girls to go out and become career
>>>> girls and this is not limited to just the urban population but also
>>>> applicable to villagers. Consider the position of women a few centuries
>>>> back in Europe and America, they were just housewives and were not
>>>> encouraged to become doctors and engineers. India was an occupied country
>>>> for a long time and the proceed of this land was taken overseas and the
>>>> people as a mass were poor and uneducated, and as such women did not have
>>>> chance to go out and work. There were a few jobs available and it was taken
>>>> by boys.
>>>> Today as India is progressing more and more women are going out to work
>>>> even those belonging to the villages. Rapes are not happening because girls
>>>> are not considered as equal to men , but because of a criminal mindset of
>>>> some people. Formerly even women of the west were wearing discrete clothes
>>>> and it has taken time for women sexuality to assert itself in the west. As
>>>> the west is the leader in this respect the issue of attire was never raised
>>>> as there was no one to compare with. Here as women are becoming modern,
>>>> including their families, comparisons are drawn with the west because it is
>>>> there to compare with.
>>>> It is the uneducated and backward people here in India who are making a
>>>> issue of dress in the name of culture and it is criminal mentality in some
>>>> people which is making them rape and terrorize girls. Today girls are
>>>> making friends with boys and it is accepted by their families, but India
>>>> still holds spiritual values and it is expected that the relationship of
>>>> the sexes remain pure, just as it was the case with the west.
>>>> I have not seen the documentary but from what I have heard it appears
>>>> that the cause of rapes in India is being said to be due to unequal
>>>> upbringing of girls and boys. But this is far from the truth, Indians are
>>>> going through the same phase of development that the west went through a
>>>> century ago. WE are progressing as a people and very fast, and if there is
>>>> crime, and I consider rape to be a crime,  it is because of the criminal
>>>> mentality of some people. Criminals always justify their actions they never
>>>> say that they are doing wrong but lay the blame on others and as such the
>>>> statements of the rapists and their backward advocates should not be taken
>>>> as the truth. Rape occurs just like anywhere else because of cheap
>>>> mentality of some people and the justification given by some people is due
>>>> to a prejudiced mindset. Indians as a people are progressive and crime
>>>> should be taken to be what it is and not otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:35 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Time published an article making the following points on India:
>>>>
>>>> 1. More rapes are being reported now: Along with the modernization of
>>>> society, more Indian women are being educated and are going out to work.
>>>> They are breaking out of the subservient mold that society had given to
>>>> them and are more independent. While this means they are more likely to be
>>>> sexually abused, it also means they are more likely — compared with women
>>>> of a previous generation — to report rapes and confront sexual predators.
>>>> In the three months after the Delhi gang rape, the number of rapes reported
>>>> in the city more than doubled to 359, from the 143 reported in
>>>> January-March of 2012. This doesn’t necessarily mean more rapes are
>>>> happening now, just that more women are emboldened to come out and report.
>>>>
>>>> 2. India actually has a high conviction rate for rape: According to the
>>>> Guardian, just 7% of reported rapes in the U.K. resulted in co
>>>>
>>>> ...
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