Seems I'm way late to this party but had to add something. "Big Girl" as i would understand it used in context, of course, could mean a large young woman. Not necessarily a pejorative. After all, Gordita, in the Spanish, means fat. But it is also a term of endearment and appreciation for a little extra chub in your woman. Cushion for the pushin' as the saying goes. As Molly noted; it's all about the culture you're in and what your complexion is. White boys should just keep our mouths shut and our wallets open.
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Hold up, now, there has to be SOME understanding of colloquial use of > language if there's any hope to achieve common ground. "Big boy" and "Big > girl" are very much colloquial ways to describe someone who is grown up and > capable of taking care of themselves. It's not specifically gendered for > the purpose of gender, and it's not the same casual usage of "girl" which > causes offense to those sensitive to such. > > The language police have become much more aggressive, I see. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Allan, calling a woman a girl is well known to be gender insensitive. If >> you don't think so, suggest you brush up or this may not be the last time >> you are called out for it. If indeed we are all supportive for human >> rights, we can bring ourselves to be sensitive to what the other feels when >> bearing the brunt of our words. Here in the states, calling a man a boy can >> get you in a great deal of trouble depending on the color of your skin and >> the region that your feet are currently planted upon. Words do matter, and >> claiming what is said is said in jest or is insignificant is an age old way >> to discount the reality of inequity, and always shows itself to be exactly >> what it is to people with attitudes that truly support human rights. So >> many of our words come to us through social conditioning, we don't >> understand the origin or inequity. It is incumbent on each of us to try. >> Tolerance of biased or abusive attitudes creates cultures of inequity. >> >> >> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >>> To me all " big girl " is saying is she is an adult and of female >>> gender.. nothing more.. unless may be grow up. No different some one >>> telling me I am a big boy.. >>> >>> But if i say the sun is shining Gabby is offended.. if she is offended i >>> will stop using it.. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>> >>> Also, I have to go with Gabby on this one. Calling her a big girl is >>> gender insensitive and demeaning. >>> >>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:27:40 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> I am trying to find out why our big girl Gabby is so bothered be me?? Is >>> Gabby's soul felling a bit guilty over what..that is a real question.. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>> >>> Do you have false teeth by any chance Gabby? If so, could you have a >>> second set made, then you could leave them in situ after biting his ass, >>> and save the rest of us from the thiedium? >>> >>> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:05:11 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>> >>> Big girl - that's not my wording, not my style, not how I view myself. >>> It's true, I was trying to make a constructive suggestion to get us out >>> of your barking at us and twisting our words to draw the focus of attention >>> to your soul perspective. Can you think of another solution so we others do >>> not have to constantly feel attacked? >>> >>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : >>> >>> If you want the topic opened, open it Gabby. You keep telling me you are >>> a big girl.. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 2:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>> >>> Soul is a place holder for "guilty conscious" in this context here, I >>> suppose. I suggest you open a thread with the header "soul" and you collect >>> all the different meanings you have identified us others associate with it. >>> We would also profit from it by being able to go there when in need of >>> translation options for your "soul" usage. And you could be sure it was >>> your very own translation that is being used by the others. What do you >>> think? >>> >>> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : >>> >>> When people do wrong knowing they justify it because their soul knows it >>> is wrong and they should not be doing it. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:57 AM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>> >>> Sure Allan, but these criminals seek excuses to justify themselves to >>> others and themselves. As a matter of fact there is no excuse for any crime >>> and a criminal has to bear the consequences of his act. >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There is no justification for rape in any form or of any gender. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 3:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. >>> >>> The women dressing sense developed in the west gradually and it was not >>> copying others but an indigenous matter and as it was a gradual process the >>> western society as a whole was able to accept it. But in India it was not >>> so, some educated girls started copying the west and Indian society as a >>> whole was not prepared for it, and that is the reason that some backward >>> sections of our society find it unacceptable, but still it has nothing to >>> do with rape, which is a criminal act and done by criminal people. The >>> reasons that such people give for it is just a justification for their >>> criminal deed and not the real reason. >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The argument that there are rapes in India because girls are not raised >>> up as equals with comparison to boys is not correct. If today girls are >>> entering into the workforce is not as a result of girls asserting >>> themselves but because their families are giving them a chance to make a >>> career for themselves. The parents, brothers, and husbands are co-operating >>> with the girls, they are encouraging the girls to go out and become career >>> girls and this is not limited to just the urban population but also >>> applicable to villagers. Consider the position of women a few centuries >>> back in Europe and America, they were just housewives and were not >>> encouraged to become doctors and engineers. India was an occupied country >>> for a long time and the proceed of this land was taken overseas and the >>> people as a mass were poor and uneducated, and as such women did not have >>> chance to go out and work. There were a few jobs available and it was taken >>> by boys. >>> Today as India is progressing more and more women are going out to work >>> even those belonging to the villages. Rapes are not happening because girls >>> are not considered as equal to men , but because of a criminal mindset of >>> some people. Formerly even women of the west were wearing discrete clothes >>> and it has taken time for women sexuality to assert itself in the west. As >>> the west is the leader in this respect the issue of attire was never raised >>> as there was no one to compare with. Here as women are becoming modern, >>> including their families, comparisons are drawn with the west because it is >>> there to compare with. >>> It is the uneducated and backward people here in India who are making a >>> issue of dress in the name of culture and it is criminal mentality in some >>> people which is making them rape and terrorize girls. Today girls are >>> making friends with boys and it is accepted by their families, but India >>> still holds spiritual values and it is expected that the relationship of >>> the sexes remain pure, just as it was the case with the west. >>> I have not seen the documentary but from what I have heard it appears >>> that the cause of rapes in India is being said to be due to unequal >>> upbringing of girls and boys. But this is far from the truth, Indians are >>> going through the same phase of development that the west went through a >>> century ago. WE are progressing as a people and very fast, and if there is >>> crime, and I consider rape to be a crime, it is because of the criminal >>> mentality of some people. Criminals always justify their actions they never >>> say that they are doing wrong but lay the blame on others and as such the >>> statements of the rapists and their backward advocates should not be taken >>> as the truth. Rape occurs just like anywhere else because of cheap >>> mentality of some people and the justification given by some people is due >>> to a prejudiced mindset. Indians as a people are progressive and crime >>> should be taken to be what it is and not otherwise. >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:35 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Time published an article making the following points on India: >>> >>> 1. More rapes are being reported now: Along with the modernization of >>> society, more Indian women are being educated and are going out to work. >>> They are breaking out of the subservient mold that society had given to >>> them and are more independent. While this means they are more likely to be >>> sexually abused, it also means they are more likely — compared with women >>> of a previous generation — to report rapes and confront sexual predators. >>> In the three months after the Delhi gang rape, the number of rapes reported >>> in the city more than doubled to 359, from the 143 reported in >>> January-March of 2012. This doesn’t necessarily mean more rapes are >>> happening now, just that more women are emboldened to come out and report. >>> >>> 2. India actually has a high conviction rate for rape: According to the >>> Guardian, just 7% of reported rapes in the U.K. resulted in co >>> >>> ... >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
