> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Daniel Ouellet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gesendet: 02.12.07 17:15:00 > An: misc@openbsd.org > Betreff: Re: Skype on the OpenBSD
> > Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > > David Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at > >> wengophone, ( http://www.openwengo.com ), it seems to be basically > >> the same thing, but it's GPL'd and the linux version is kept up to > >> date. It might be easier to get working than Skype. Please note that > >> I've not tried to get it working on OpenBSD, I just thought this > >> might be of interest to the list. > > > > Sure, there are alternatives, but the problem with them is that they > > aren't that wide-spread like Skype. It's the same problem from which > > Jabber suffers :(. Superior technology, but not spread enough. > > I find this to be an interesting statement here. I hope I miss > understood it. So, you may run OpenBSD, I assume this as you are on > OpenBSD list, so your choice of OS is then based on it's merit for > security most likely, but at the same time, you kind of promote to use > buggy software and fell to justify it access to private data, etc that > it really have no business doing by the fact that it is widely use and > as such you can't run something else? > > I find this very disturbing at best? > > So, it's OK to run virus, bad software, compromise stuff because they > are in wide spread and alternative would at the moment less convenient > until others see the light as well and ditch it? > > No wonder there is so many compromise computers and servers on the > Internet with attitude like that and that it is so hard to fight against > BLOB and required to get good quality and bug free software. > > No intention to offend you in anyway really, that's not my point at all, > but honestly I don't get it! > > The situation at large will only change if you make the choice knowing > to force it to change and simply do not accept it to start with. > > SO, it's ok for anyone at Skype, partners and anyone that compromise > Skype software to have access to all your data, private informations, > motherboard BIOS, etc and know everything you did in the pass and > everything you will do in the future? > > If that's really the point of convenience you make, may as well run > Windows and have no security setup, but let everything open, at a > minimum, you wouldn't pretend to try to be secure and protect your > privacy, but would knowingly make it public to anyone that care to see it. > > Again, nothing personal to you or anything like that. It's not my > intention at all and if you take it as such, I sure apologies ahead of time. > > My point is this attitude at large that we see way to often. > > As long as this attitude stay and we do not say no to this kind of > practice, it will never stop and trying to built secure OS OpenBSD or > the like, and stop the BLOB is pointless unless users put their > integrity together and will use software, hardware and OS that are fit > together and respect the same goal. > > If you run OpenBSD, then I assume may be wrongly, but you want security, > so stay in the path and reject anything else including hardware that > don't provide documentations and BLOB and software that you can't trust. > > Pretending to do different is a liar. > > Hope this provide something to think about. > > Best, > > Daniel > > Daniel, those are some words of wisdom. Nice wakeup call! Thx. STEFAN
