Oh, the three filter knobs next to each deck aren't meant to all be filter knobs. They could be effect superknobs and/or effect parameters.
On 06/08/2015 05:13 PM, Be wrote: > Hmm, interesting sketch. I like the idea of having the EQs and volume > fader adjacent to the waveforms. That is a more efficient use of space > than putting the mixer between the decks. However, in your mockup, I > think it would be easy to confuse which controls are for which deck. I > think moving two of the decks to the top so they could be closer to > their respective waveforms would help. > > I think only having two different colors for color coding four decks can > get confusing, so I made a mockup with a color for each deck. I tried > shading the background of all the deck controls with the waveform > background color, which makes a clear visual connection between the deck > controls and the waveforms because they are all contiguous. The colors > are not the prettiest, but that would be a detail to work out later. > > Here is a mockup: > http://i.imgur.com/XAE1ZKf.png > > It could be interesting to make the spaces between the decks > individually swapable between effects and samplers. > > For two deck mode, either the top or bottom two decks could be hidden to > make room for the small library. Hiding the top two decks would provide > an interface similar to old LateNight skins. > > Thoughts? > > On 06/08/2015 11:42 AM, Markus Klösges wrote: >>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >>> >>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] >>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >>> waveform 1 >>> waveform 2 >>> waveform 3 >>> waveform 4 >>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] >> >> I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so on, just >> simple crossfading with external mixer and so on. >> I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen-wide >> waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that doesn't work >> out for 4 decks. >> >> I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config-options but >> better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution maybe). >> >> The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me and results in >> lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on. >> >> The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader and the >> preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without the mixer >> there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would it be >> possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons) there? That >> would result in the big waveforms for me. >> >> Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) screen-wide and >> place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as pitch was in >> 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance, HeadGain and >> Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be placed like >> proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of previewDeck and >> maybe Mics. >> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2] >> [------------------] [Waveform 3] [------------------] >> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4] >> [------------------] [Waveform 4] [------------------] >> [ Deck1 ] [ Deck2 ] [ Deck3 ] [ Deck4 ] >> [PreviewDeck] [ Crossfade/Master ] [Microphones] >> [Samplers] >> [Effects] >> [Library] >> >> I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd >> I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and this dosn't >> get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger waveforms. >> >> But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and should better >> be done in an other skin. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Cheers, >> Markus >> >> Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be: >>> I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels like putting >>> bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy to solve. >>> There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that it's kinda >>> overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better solutions to >>> those design challenges would take a lot of effort that shouldn't delay >>> 1.12. >>> >>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >>> >>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] >>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >>> waveform 1 >>> waveform 2 >>> waveform 3 >>> waveform 4 >>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] >>> >>> On 06/06/2015 01:04 PM, Owen Williams wrote: >>>> "thanks" as in, you tested it and it works well? I don't want to commit >>>> without someone taking a look at it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 09:30 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 00:29:14 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>>>>> I've posted a PR for some new LateNight display options. I'm >>>>>> definitely >>>>>> running up against the limits of the skinning engine so I can't do >>>>>> a lot >>>>>> more than this. But it makes it possible to specifically select >>>>>> the big >>>>>> waveforms if you want them. It also makes it possible to turn off >>>>>> the >>>>>> EQs to save some vertical space without eliminating the whole >>>>>> mixer. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks:) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 2015-06-05 at 05:16 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> Owen, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That mockup was poorly thought out re: mixer, sorry. I never use >>>>>> 4 >>>>>>> decks :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you aren't sick of my backseat driving yet, I just had >>>>>> another >>>>>>> slightly radical idea - make LateNight's library "toggle only", >>>>>> so >>>>>>> that the "big library" button becomes the only way to see it. >>>>>> This >>>>>>> wouldn't inhibit my personal use style, and it would free the >>>>>>> entire screen for controls. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Possibly a complimentary idea is to let the search field remain >>>>>> in >>>>>>> the main window, and have "big library" open with the results, >>>>>>> either as you type or after hitting enter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just for fun I've attached the Gimp .xcf layers I used for the >>>>>>> mockup, which can be used in a paper-doll fashion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~RAWRR >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:01:55 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> I think we should come up with some sort of standard effect >>>>>> rack >>>>>>>> template that all the skins can share (and theme as necessary) >>>>>> but >>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>> not sure we can do that in time for release. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is currently not enough room for big waveforms and the >>>>>> mixer >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> also 4 decks. At low resolutions, it's already impossible to >>>>>> show >>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>> UI element, and the skin system is not flexible enough to allow >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> every possible combination of elements. So the design is a >>>>>> best- >>>>>>>> effort >>>>>>>> at letting people choose a good layout. Ultimately if there's >>>>>> a >>>>>>>> skin >>>>>>>> design you want that isn't possible, it may be necessary to >>>>>> create >>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>> skin for it. For a while I was maintaining LateNight-Wide, >>>>>> which >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> all four decks horizontally and the waveforms at the top, >>>>>> spanning >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> width of the screen. Maybe it's time to resurrect that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 18:40 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> Owen, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been using the LateNight resizeable skin and I have a >>>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>>> of issues: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can we get a thing where the effects bank can optionally get >>>>>>>>> minimized, possibly back to the simplistic dials existing >>>>>>>>> previously? I'm running out of real estate on all of my >>>>>> screens, >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> don't currently have any hi-res ones. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Related, I kind of hate being forced to choose waveforms vs. >>>>>>>> mixer, >>>>>>>>> and the loss of big waveforms in that skin to begin with. It >>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>>> to me the reason they got 86'd was the effects bank mentioned >>>>>>>> above. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Didn't file a bug because this is just my >>>>>> experience/preference, >>>>>>>>> but thought you'd want feedback. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~RAWRR >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:53:57 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>>>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 15:29 -0400, RJ Ryan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * skin polish (Jus has an active Deere branch) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The skins are in kind of bad shape at the moment. They >>>>>> really >>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>> polish to bring them to design bar that we set pretty high >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.0. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You mention skins are in a bad shape -- can you file bugs >>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> issues you >>>>>>>>>> know about? 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