Jack,
  Why don't you just delete the emails that say SUV? How hard can it be?
That's what I've been doing? I don't really feel like discussing SUV's
either, but I don't see why everyone else has to stop discussing it. It's
not like this is the only topic right now? Why don't you start a new
interesting topic about 16v's if you are bored? Adios!

             Markos

On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:01:41 -0500 Jack Simon <[email protected]> writes:
>Folks,
>
>       Hasn't this totally unrelated thread continued long enough???  
>With
>the exception of the odd mention of GTI, GLI, Golf, or Jetta I can't 
>see
>any relationship to the real purpose of this list.  Yes, way back 
>when
>someone reported their GTI/GLI/whatever getting nailed by one and 
>written
>off.  Yes, I am sorry to hear that that happened but, no, I don't 
>think it
>should be dragged out for a couple of weeks discussing the 
>merits/faults of
>big 4 wheel drive family haulers.  If a bunch of you prefer to discuss 
>it
>further, why not exchange private e-mails instead of giving the 
>majority of
>the list something else to delete on a regular basis??
>
>Cheers, Jack
>
>>>     Actually, that's not quite true anymore. The latest studies
>>>have found that SUVs are less safe (more injuries/fatalities) in
>>>single vehicle accidents, while being a little more safe in
>>>multi-vehicle accidents. The advantage in multi-vehicle accidents 
>is
>>>probably due to their weight advantage, while the greater injuries 
>in
>>>single vehicle accidents is probably due, in large part, to
>>>roll-overs and loss-of-control. What none of these studies take 
>into
>>>account, however, is accident avoidance. SUV's have longer braking
>>>distances and far worse handling compared to even an average family
>>>sedan or station wagon. I would much rather be able to avoid an
>>>accident in the first place, than get by saved by completely 
>crushing
>>>the poor guy in the smaller car.
>>>
>>>     I drive much slower when behind the wheel of my 
>girlfriend's
>>>Pathfinder, but I still feel much safer in my GTI.
>>
>>Part of the problem with SUVs is that most still use body on frame
>>construction rather than a unit body.  The grand cherokee, ML320 and 
>X5 are
>>all probably safer due to the unibody....
>>                                              **************
>>                                              Patrick Austin
>>                                              [email protected]
>>                                              (617)493-6636
>>                                              **************
>
>
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