>From what I have noticed on fwd cars is what josh was talking about.  Since we 
>have all that weight on our drive wheels, lets put it to good use.  I assume 
>that most of us auto-x'ers have some camber on the car (I run -1.5 deg on all 
>four).  By having the front of the car a little more plush than the rear, it 
>allows the car to use the camber to it's advantage.  If your car is level 
>through a corner, then the camber is useless (other than tire wear).


My current setup for the jetta is lowering springs (1.25"), Tekico adustable 
shocks (I run on 4 for the rears, and 2 for the fronts), and a aluminum rear 
sway bar.  From what I can tell at the events, this is a fairly good setup.  
The car is very netural, and I dont have much wheel spin.  I have been running 
in STS, and I have been keeping up with Impreza RS's, which is what I was 
hoping for.


Hope this helps some,



Ryan 



'87 GLI 16v





 










>From: "Denis Palmans" 




>To: "A2-16v" 




>Subject: Re: [A2-16v] Suspension Report Auto X 



>Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:33:31 -0700 



> 



>I think I disagree on this. Not adding any swaybars to the front is just as 



>pointless as only adding a huge rear sway bar. The swaybars connect the 



>suspension on both sides of the car, allowing for roll resistance. A larger 



>front swaybar would help to keep both front tires in contact with the 



>ground, which should allow for more grip in order to turn faster and harder. 



>Adding a huge bar to the back and leaving the front alone seems like it is 



>not what you would want to do. It would change the car from understeer to 



>slight oversteer, which while it would defiantly be fun would also be more 



>unpredictable and probably not as fast and consistent. 



>I agree with adding on a rear bar, but to not add a front bar, or 



>disconnecting the front bar does not seem like a good idea to me. Adding a 



>front bar, and then dialing in a rear bar from there to provide the best 



>feel seems like it should be how to go. Just because the car understeers or 



>doesn't 'feel' as fast doesn't mean it really is slower. 



>It would almost be like running much higher rate springs on the rear than on 



>the front of the car. 



> 



>Any suspension experts in here? 



> 



>-Denis 



>----- Original Message ----- 



>From: "DocWyte" 




>To: "Rich Blake" 
; "A2-16v" 




>Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:12 AM 



>Subject: Re: [A2-16v] Suspension Report Auto X 



> 



> 



> > Add the largest rear swaybar you can. I like the 



> > Shine Racing swaybar, it has no brackets that can fail 



> > and no bushings that creak. 



> > 



> > Leave the stock front swaybar in place!!! If you add 



> > a larger front swaybar you might as well not even 



> > bother to get swaybars at all, you'll only be 



> > counteracting the larger rear swaybar and dialing in 



> > understeer... 



> > 



> > -josh 



> > 



> > 



> > --- Rich Blake 
wrote: 



> > > Finally got the car on the track with the new 



> > > suspension bits (Bilstien 



> > > HD/H&R Sport springs) and results are good and bad. 



> > > The good is that the 



> > > car is much less prone to body roll and turn in is 



> > > more precise and smooth. 



> > > Definately feels much better than stock suspension. 



> > > The bad is I'm still 



> > > pushing hard coming out of the corners which tells 



> > > me I need some stiffer 



> > > swaybars. I tried to play with tire pressure and 



> > > lowering the rears 2 psi 



> > > got me .200 sec slower. Overall however, I am about 



> > > 2 seconds faster than 



> > > before with the new stuff. With street tires I am 



> > > in the lower mid pack in 



> > > DSP which is pretty good for a mostly stock under 



> > > prepared car. Stiffer 



> > > bars, more neg camber (@-1.5 now) and some actual 



> > > race tires and I might be 



> > > competitive. Saving dollars... 



> > > 



> > > Rich Blake 



> > > 



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