I forgot about that first time transfer requirement. I was going to use a friends address in Calaveras County to avoid having to buy illegal smogs, but I would have had to have a passed test within 90 days of changing the registered address of the car. I don't know where you are, but the larger cities will have a lot more options for choosing a test station. And you're right, mechanics and doctors are a lot alike when it comes to finding one that you can trust. At least I was always capable of doing virtually all the work on my vehicles, but it's kind of hard to work on yourself 😉
~Holland On Apr 1, 2016 10:49, "damac2004" <[email protected]> wrote: > no smog is required except on vehicle transfer into this county. so i > guess the same 90 day window applies, the car i got passed about 5 months > before i got it and had a long list of other passes in california. > > sadly i have been taken advantage of more than once by mechanics shops so > i will have to do some research. i have had the same problems with doctors > it can be a sad selfish world. im sure there is a good shop out there, i > will just have to poke around i guess and travel more. and maybe its > better i go to a non repair station and insist on the pretest. > > On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 7:55:11 AM UTC-7, hollandphillips wrote: >> >> I'm confused. You just said you live in a small no smog county? I know >> there used to be some counties in California that didn't require bi annual >> smog tests, like Calaveras County. If you live in one of those counties, >> why do you have to get a smog, or have the laws changed? And I think pre >> testing is offered at the discretion of each smog station, or maybe it's >> only offered by the test only stations. Since the test equipment is >> connected directly to the DMV, the technician has to know how to run a pre >> test without the results being automatically sent to the DMV. I used to >> have to "buy" smogs for a couple of my vehicles because the were illegally >> modified for performance purposes. Back in the '90's, it would cost me >> about $50, but once they came out with the test equipment that's connected >> to the DMV, most of the guys that would do that either got busted, or quit >> doing it. The last time I had to get an illegal smog, back in 2012, it cost >> me $250, and they had to use a "clean" vehicle to run the test. It was all >> very covert, and the guy was extremely paranoid and nervous about doing it. >> This was in Santa Clara County. >> >> ~Holland >> On Mar 31, 2016 11:21 PM, "damac2004" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> i could just tape the loom up where the wires are cut. i have searched >> vortex forums and it seems allot of people run without that plug sensor but >> i can't find a definate on what the computer actually does. >> >> i don't know if its because im living in a no smog small county or what, >> but i have had trouble already with the places in town. i think i will >> have to venture further away. one told me i needed to get the check engine >> light fixed because he couldn't find it and luckily he wouldn't even charge >> me or start the test. i told him what the book said and it being currently >> smogged. next place told me i need to pay for smog and if it fails they >> will fix it and charge me nothing on a retest. so they won't do a pre >> test? i specifically told them what i wanted to do and how im dealing with >> this piece of crap. i am guessing the shops can do what they want? the >> places in town don't even offer free retesting. >> >> >> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 7:56:27 PM UTC-7, hollandphillips wrote: >> >> I've had concerns about the wires you found cut since you mentioned them. >> In CA, on pre OBD cars, they look for hardware and check tail pipe. I had a >> Euro intake on my car, and the port for the EYE valve wasn't machined, so I >> just bolted the valve on and ran the wire back into the harness without >> connecting it, and they never caught it. Those cut wires may be for the >> reference sensor, and if the smog Nazis see them, they may fail you on that >> alone. Plus, without a functioning reference sensor, I doubt the car will >> run correctly, and that may be the reason your timing is jumping around. >> Like I said before, at this point, I would find a smog station that offers >> free retests and go for it. They will tell you what is not correct if it >> fails. >> >> ~Holland >> On Mar 31, 2016 19:27, "damac2004" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> holy cow i hope to have a success story soon but i am not quite there yet >> for smog. i went ahead and checked the codes and found i got an egr >> error, igntion reference sender and knock sensor #1 bad wiring or sender. >> >> somebody told me i don't have a california ecu, does anybody know if all >> ecu's would throw that egr even if on a non california car? i don't think >> i have to worry about it, just wondering. >> >> on the knock sensor both of mine are chipped up where the sensor bolts >> in, one of them has no covering on the whole run of wire, just metal >> strands. just got a couple bosch new ones for cheap on ebay so will >> install those. >> >> the last one for the igntion reference sender brings up an issue i didn't >> know i had. my car has no sensor on #4 wire and i found no connector in my >> harness but there is a run of 3 wires that was cut off. does anybody know >> if this will effect how the computer runs things? i have read it both ways >> searching. i never noticed a problem with the car before i touched it >> except it was stinky and didn't get good mileage. i don't even care about >> this as long as i pass smog. >> >> if i read right i also believe a car can have a 2 degree deviation from >> the stock timing specs so i think i might just take a chance with this car >> and set it as best as i can, even though the timing light jumps around. i >> have talked with numerous people on each side of this issue as well. some >> said their marks wandered, some said they don't. hate to throw money at >> this car if i don't have to, but would enjoy making it right for the next >> guy when i get rid of it :) >> >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 5:52:49 PM UTC-7, hollandphillips wrote: >> >> Two knock sensors means 2.0/9A block. >> On the timing issue, there is something that needs to be disconnected >> prior to using a timing light. I can't remember what exactly it is, but I >> think it's a vacuum line somewhere. Again, that information is in the >> Bentley. Once the whatever is disconnected, the timing should be steady >> when viewed with the timing light. >> The timing advance on Motronic cars is controlled by the ECU, which is >> why initial setting of the timing requires disconnecting whatever it is the >> Bentley tells you. They do connect a timing sensor to the number one >> cylinder spark plug lead when running an emissions test in California. >> Don't know if it's just for reference to the machine, or if they can >> actually fail you if it's out of spec. >> >> ~Holland >> On Mar 24, 2016 17:04, "damac2004" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ok so ground showed no continuity to that sensor wire. it does with pin >> 7 i believe on the ecu connector, so i guess i am good. i kept getting >> confused because people were talking about an insulated wire and im >> thinking a nasty cable like for tv. when looking these guys over as is, >> they don't seem special looking to me. >> >> also i looked over the car again and i do have 2 knock sensors. they are >> on the front of the block close to each, closer to cylinder #1. they each >> attach to a harness connector that goes into the loom and >> >> ... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MK2-16v" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/94480b4a-46df-447b-91b3-7ea0cd8443bb%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/94480b4a-46df-447b-91b3-7ea0cd8443bb%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MK2-16v" group. 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