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Yes But...... Each of these skill sets , with CS divided into programmers and sys admins, have a range of applications of those skills. A mason could only use the cements he was taught for his whole career or could be experimenting with varying the prep or bringing glues or other product from other fields. The same way a coworker of mine who graduated at the same time as me, did the same cobol programming job for 20 years in the time I toggled back and forth between programming and sys admin jobs using 10 different technologies. Other contemporaries of mine Got PhDs and created bleeding edge crypto, others got in management early and climbed to VP levels of multinationals. There are jobs in each field that are 'trade' type jobs and we absolutely need to people to keep thing running at that level but at the same time there are others that need extend skills or even the ability to extend the field or integrate multiple skills in one job or create new unique ideas. Somewhere in the amorphous blob the jobs transition from trades to engineering theoretical research or any other label you want to apply to them. It continuos spectrum with no sharp boundaries other than the one imposed by Charter organization (CPA, OEQ), universities, or certification companies (Cisco, M. )each defending their own domain and make money from it. Nelson On 2015-10-22, at 3:19 PM, Leslie Satenstein <[email protected]> wrote: > My view is that cs, like electricians, plumbers, masonry workers is a trade. > To be good at cs is to Love > > My definition of a cs engineer is one that can create digital/analogue > hardware and integrate the two. Today we manage computer systems > Some of us are on Networking and security, some of us on the database arena. > And others who perform system administration. > > I consider myself a CS plumber because I dont use my advanced math skills or > my software design knowledge and hardware design skills together. A CS > engineer invents new products or applies algorithms to solve "complex" > problems. He should be able to take a concept and arrive at a design. He > should then be able to manage it's creation (project manage the project).
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