Exactly. According to click tracking the settings page gets 200 clicks a day (compared to Watchlist which gets around 5K) - although note this clicktracking is only limited to users of high end phones (requires JavaScript). I think these metrics would be very useful to have and would let us get a better idea of our users.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote: > You're talking about having the origin servers take POSTs and make a backend > event logging call, right? As opposed to a pure JavaScript event logging > solution. I believe that doing it with origin servers hitting event logging > would be ideal for ensuring that data is captured for both devices without > JS support adequate for JS-driven event logging, as well as those with it. > > Argh, decimal placement problem on my side.The usage of > Special:MobileOptions is actually much lower. Here are comparisons of > Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia versus general m.wikipedia, based on 20140310 log > data. > > Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia: > Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) - > 0.09% > POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 24.8% > > General m.wikipedia: > Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) - > 0.02% > POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 19.9% > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Poke. >> I'm no sure if it's safe to add a new data point, but I'd love to know >> the answer to this question. Alternatively we could use EventLogging >> on the server side to log people that disable images (as well as those >> that opt in and out of beta). I think it's a useful component to have >> on mobile especially for the Zero case but if we can avoid using it in >> mobile web I think this is a good idea. >> >> I created a story >> https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1757 >> in the hope we might explore this. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Good question. I think we'd need to log this origin side, and look at >> > percentage usage on mdot in general and usage percentage on mdot for >> > Wikipedia Zero and see the results and see if there's any measurable >> > difference. >> > >> > Is it safe to add this data point via MobileFrontend's existing DOMParse >> > wfDebugLog call? Or should we add an additional wfDebugLog statement >> > right >> > below it? >> > >> > As an aside, I noticed that of the 1% of "pageviews" on Wikipedia Zero >> > for >> > Special:MobileOptions, three-fourths are GETs and one-fourth are POSTs >> > (POSTs seem to be issued irrespective of JavaScript support if the user >> > hits >> > "Save"). As "Images (On|Off)" is the only option currently shown on >> > Wikipedia Zero for users who get to Special:MobileOptions, we can >> > somewhat >> > safely say that on a given day we're talking an upper bound of maybe 500 >> > users who (optionally) toggle the On | Off switch and (by implication) >> > hit >> > "Save" on a given day. As to whether the cookie persists, particularly >> > in >> > the Off state, and whether that translates to a nontrivial number of >> > no-images pageviews, the origin-side logging will tell the fuller story, >> > I >> > suppose. >> > >> > -Adam >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Adam, I am interested in who uses the feature "Images" on >> >> Special:MobileOptions which sets a cookie disabling images. I'm not >> >> sure how page views to Special:MobileOptions is related. Is it >> >> possible to see % of page views where the "disableImages" cookie is >> >> set? This would give a better indication of how widely used this >> >> feature is.... >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Adam Baso <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Based on the 20140302 W0 logfile it looks like Special:MobileOptions >> >> > constitutes about 1% of "pageviews" (not the bulletproof definition, >> >> > but >> >> > a >> >> > good enough one). >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> We added it specifically for Zero back in the day. Should be easy >> >> >> enough to measure and get into a sprint. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > On this page - >> >> >> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileOptions >> >> >> > - >> >> >> > it is possible to disable images across the mobile site. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > How many people actually use this (outside Zero)? Can we get some >> >> >> > data? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I personally think we should explore killing this feature as an >> >> >> > option >> >> >> > and leave it to the browser to take care of... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > Mobile-l mailing list >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Mobile-l mailing list >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jon Robson >> >> * http://jonrobson.me.uk >> >> * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson >> >> * @rakugojon >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jon Robson >> * http://jonrobson.me.uk >> * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson >> * @rakugojon > > -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson * @rakugojon _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
