John I did understand. My position however is that if the dealer made
a mistake, then what he says in his return privileges goes out the
window. It's the dealer's mistake..
At 03:31 PM 10/7/2011, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote:
Hi Rich
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I agree that seller
should usually pay for return postage if they make a mistake and I
always do that. However, if a seller specifically states in the
auction that they don't pay for return shipping then that is what is
likely to happen.
Regards
John
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Richard Halegua Comic Art
To: <mailto:[email protected]>JOHN REID Vintage Movie
Memorabilia ;
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] ;
<mailto:[email protected]>Michael B
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 extra
undisclosed folds
John, I disagree
if a seller has mis-described or not properly reported condition
issues that should be noted if not visible, then I believe (as I'm
sure does Bruce, Sean and most dealers) that I should be paying
return shipping - unless some other deal was worked out like a small
discount, replacement etc.
the buyer might not have bid as much or at all if the condition was
properly described, so that would on my head, not my customer's.
if a seller on ebay tells me he won't accept returns for instance
under any circumstances, I don't care if he has a Double Indemnity 1
sheet up that's about to close for $1000. I'm not bidding, because
I'm not going to consider putting up with any bullshyte
similarly, if the seller says I accept returns if I incorrectly
described, but you pay shipping and I will not refund your other
shipping either.. I'm telling that dealer to kiss my lily white a$$
and I'm taking my dollars elsewhere
If a buyer after receipt says "Hey, you didn't do anything wrong,
but I find that I don't like this piece as much as I thought I might
and I would like to return it", I happily take return, but shipping
in neither direction will be refunded. I will not take any other
action against the buyer. he may bid freely in the future.
if the buyer after receipt says "you f*cking suck and I want to
return this".. well that gets back to the lily white thingy
Rich
At 03:05 PM 10/7/2011, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote:
Just another point about this. The issue seems to be about whether
the seller should pay for return shipping. eBay actually requires
all sellers to specify a return policy and also to indicate who
pays for the poster to be sent back. Surely it should be just a
case of checking the sellers policy which is clearly displayed in
the listing. If the listing says that the seller won't pay for
return shipping then they shouldnt be expected to change their policy.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Richard Halegua Comic Art
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 extra
undisclosed folds
Michael
are you telling me that the dealer wouldn't pay for your shipping cost
or
that maybe he got irritated at you after your messages/MoPo and
told you to f*ck off?
or
are you saying you feel you got a good enough price in buying it
that you don't want to return it?
It makes a world of difference which of these 3 situations is the answer
if the latter is the case Michael, then I don't see why you say you
were "burnt" or that you will "take a hit"
if the latter is not the case, then something isn't right
Rich
At 02:42 PM 10/7/2011, Michael B wrote:
not at all.
it was never my intent to embarrass the mega-dealer-seller. my
posting was merely to get the seller to respond, if he were a MOPO
member. the picture of the poster on ebay looks near mint....even
hard to see the studio folds.
i was burnt and disappointed in this transaction.........
i repeat: the picture of the poster on ebay looks mint....even
hard to see the studio folds. ....no hint of extra fold on the
photo.......but offensive in person.
looks like i will take a hit on this one, because when i sell it,
i will disclose the defects.
easy for those who don't get slapped to say to the other to turn
the other cheek.
michael
In a message dated 10/7/2011 4:56:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
Fascinating is all I can say.
This buyer who complained so loudly has now gone completely silent and
turned his mute button on. Why?
And with still no links to this incorrectly described (4 4 4 folded)
poster, and no response to those that questioned, criticized and
commented on his premature outburst towards a seller who was/is
willing to work with him-- speaks volumes about this individual's own
integrity and transparency.
I see he also occasionally lists a number of posters for sale on ebay,
with every color in the rainbow used in the descriptive fonts
(psychedelic trip?). Let's just hope that each and every flaw on those
posters have been accurately disclosed. I am willing to bet that there
are small imperfections that have not been seen and therefore, not
disclosed.
And if someone found an undisclosed flaw and wanted to return a
purchased poster to him, would this seller pay for return shipping
and/or take a price reduction decided by the unhappy buyer?
-KL
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Michael B <[email protected]> wrote:
> when a poster is "not as described" or has undisclosed defects,
it should be
> the seller that paye the return postage?
>
> i am waiting for the seller to confirm this.
>
> i was happy to see that the seller read my posting on MOPO, and
responded,
> but he needs to confirm that he will pay the return postage.
>
> michael
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