i can see poster collectors thoughts if they only see the poster as a art element or somehow want to keep it Original in its condition..
However maybe its because I see Movie memorabilia as a much wider arena then just posters alone// see why i got into being a dealer was that I wanted to be around show business as that what I liked as a hobby and as a profession and so the entire business intrigued me... not as investment but as a passion.... the behind the scens people , the craftsman, the camermen, the writers , the agents, directors, prop people You name it... simply put the dream factorys and the studios made me hyperventalate !!! so to actually meet a Ray harryhausen or talk to linwood Dunne on the phone... or shake hands with somone in film was such a rush and also when they would say something... like when I asked Pete Best the Beatles 1st drummer what would you tell Tommy to do?? he said well Practice and never give up... that to me was a million dollar moment... Ormeeting Drew Struzan at a Star wars celebration ... his words and how he handled himself was so Humble as where the Hildebrandt bothers when in NYC... its just the stuff that inspires ... so perhaps I love the cinema business because i love the crators that make it... the poster is to me just the stamp or salute to the film... when i think of saving Private ryan.. which i saw again the other day... its BEB Burrts excellent sound design and Stevens treatment on the screen,the actors, the sound track, the ambiance of the shaky camera to give the feeling of there... However sure the poster captures the moment like a Photo.. and if the artist or designer can summerize that film in the art then its a wonderful tribute to that Film.... as for autographs they are just proof that you brushed elbows with people you admired and where part of the phenomonon of the film... many times I passed on signings for a handshake and to look at the star or person and say thanks for doing a great job... I would much prefer having a lunch and just talk then have stuff... I always dreamed of Spielberg and Lucas and just talking as i like what they have done and im sure they have stories.. also Steven is supposed to make a mean Matzoball soup and i thought that would be cool to try as i never had any... really the memorabilia is the summery of the people , the creators and to me it involes the whole crew, cast Directors and all as its a group effort,,,, when it works and gels we call it a hit..;) I never saved stuff because of monatary worth.. I saved iit because i enjoyed it and liked the business of movies... somtimes i was lucky and it sold for good money... i would always tell customers Buy it because you love it NOT as a investment only as things can change....if you get stuck with stuff you like anyway ... thats not bad.. also...whats funny is most collectors not all dont see the value until they are dead as they never wish to sell... so why not enjoy it... sell off what you dont need and experience it and enjoy seeing others collections and sharing the passion for film memorabilia...? and if you get lucky maybe your stuff will sell at auction for big bux to boot! > >---- Original Message ---- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Autographs on Movie Posters >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:46:02 +0100 > >>I'd actually be curious to know how many times restorers have been >asked to remove Prowse, Mayhew and Anthony Daniels' signatures from >Star Wars posters. >> >>Didn't someone post a story on here about having to restrain some >minor actor from signing their poster at a Film Fair? >> >>I'm happy with having managed to get some posters signed by Kubrick, >(who knew exactly where to place it on the design), but if Malcolm >McDowell attempted to add his sig to my Clockwork Orange quad, I'd >stop him and hand him a Blue Thunder 1 sht. >> >>Hitchcock's on Vertigo wouldn't be at all bad, but if it or >additional ones interfered with the design I'd pass. >> >>I'd value a great condition example of that poster higher than the >sigs. >> >>Clearly very personal this one. >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>On 23 Jun 2012, at 18:50, channinglylethomson ><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Good point, Tom. I generally agree with you that an autograph can >really enhance a poster -- that said, there are some poster >collectors that just wouldn't like it. I guess the answer is, it >depends on the poster collector and their interest in autographs. To >me, having the additional autograph of the major star/director would >be a plus. For example, an original Vertigo poster, signed by >Hitchcock, Stewart and Novak would never leave this house (or as >Charlton Heston said, "my cold dead hands")! >>> >>> Channing >>> >>> On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Tom Martin wrote: >>> >>>> Ive heard that idea however I disagree with who ever started that >>>> theory.. It makes no sense... because if the star or director or >>>> players sign it IN MY opinion it enhances the experience , the >>>> provenance, and the entire cinema experience... for example... my >son >>>> likes Star wars... and he would carry a insert to shows and get >the >>>> starsto sign it.. I think he has Prowse and mayhew and anthony >>>> daniels... not only does it give a rich memory but also a >storywhich >>>> is what memorabilia is about.. to conjure memories of the >>>> experience.. the poster alone is a piece of advertising art >lacking >>>> personality, howevere the signed poster like a bokk shows that >>>> principals in the artistic endevor where in a time and place and >>>> touched the artifact in person.. not to mention if they spoke to >the >>>> signee.. >>>> a friend of ours was a bit player in Ghostbusters Two.. and he >was >>>> able to get us a signed 1 sheet by the entire cast minus >>>> sigorney...they even made cute remarks and signed in silver paint >>>> pen... as Huge GB fans we found that signing as making the poster >a >>>> OVer the Top piece of memorabilia far exceedding just a simple >common >>>> poster... as for value... its a one of a kind as how many where >>>> signed by the entire main cast??? also the face we know its >100% >>>> original as our friend was in the movie.. we also where able to >get >>>> signed books by Roddy Mcdowell when he received a doctorate at BG >>>> university... again my son brought a planet of the apes doll and >also >>>> a Gum card that he signed... ironically the local TV news station >>>> filmmed him signing Tommys stuff so its on footage showing it... >and >>>> the most important part was my son was able to meet some heavies >in >>>> the biz in person to leave a everlasting memory and inspire his >own >>>> dreams of making movies..years from now when he looks back.... he >>>> will remember .he was able to meet adam west, jerry lewis, roddy >>>> mcdowell,many star wars people like Rick Mccallum and the kid in >the >>>> movie... matthew Broderick to name afew...also he met musicians >and >>>> they signed his bass pickgaurd.. like bootsy collins, les >claypool, >>>> the funk brothers, and others... autographs just freeze a time >and >>>> place of the memorie and crystalize the experience....To me as a >>>> dealer and a collector a signed piece in any form far exceeds >just a >>>> commonoff the shelf item....that gos accross the board// letters >and >>>> signed clothing its all Good and its history of the celebrity and >of >>>> the art... >>>> who ever started the idea that autographs do not embellish the >>>> posters worth should really consider what memorabilia is all >about >>>> and has meant from the getgo kindest regards, Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Autographs on Movie Posters >>>>> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:48:07 -0400 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From my earliest years of collecting movie posters, it was a >common >>>>> belief >>>>>> among collectors and dealers alike that probably stars' >autographs >>>>> on movie >>>>>> posters or lobby cards definitely de-valued the piece. In >fact, >>>>> on many >>>>>> occasions restorers would be requested to remove the autograph >when >>>>> the >>>>>> poster was linen-backed. Of course in rare occasions...for >>>>> instance, if the >>>>>> poster was autographed by Jean Harlow or Carole Lombard or >Greta >>>>> Garbo...this >>>>>> might not be the case. But in most instances, I've always >heard >>>>> that an >>>>>> autograph definitely does not make a movie poster more >valuable... >>>>>> >>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>>>>> >>>>> >___________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>>>>> >>>>>> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >>>>>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>>>>> >>>>>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its >content >>>>> . >>>>>> >>>> >>>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>>> >___________________________________________________________________ >>>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>>> >>>> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >>>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>>> >>>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its >content. >>> >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>> >___________________________________________________________________ >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>> >>> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>> >>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its >content. >> >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >> >___________________________________________________________________ >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >> >> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >> >> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content >. >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
