> [Ron]
> I just wanted to take responsibility for my comments. which are just
> that. I'm not a Pirsig Parrot and definitly have my own take on
> things...which may or may not have any merit. I enjoy your criticism
> and often agree with your points. It's nice to have some healthy
> debate.
> Thanks Ham.
Hey Ron, this is SA,
I don't like how Ham generalizes that we're Pirsig Parrot's and we
use a poetic talk that is not philosophy. I keep emphasizing with Ham
that his thesis is - HIS thesis, which is fine and dandy. I like the
MoQ, as I've said many times in the past, especially to Ham due to his
instance that he KNOWS we are Pirsig Parrot's and HE KNOWS the MoQ
better than Pirsig. He talks over me, it seems, at times. I may
something back, like he copied his thesis from other essentialists and I
guess I did say this since if one can't be creative (poetic), then they
must be copying somebody elses philosophy. Since he says one can't be
poetic (creative), then to be a philosopher according to Ham one must be
copying.
I like the MoQ.org due to its' understood MoQ language that has
been defined in two books and papers. I have this preconceptual
understanding of reality that I've known before the MoQ. I do admit the
MoQ has helped me understand this reality I experience, probably due to
the socializing aspect on this website that helps stir my thoughts and
experience. I'm no Pirsig parrot. I like the language. It gets closer
to the reality that I experience than most other philosophies. Zen is
interesting too. I like some hunter/gather mythologies (Campbell's
books), as well. I do like canoeing, meditating (just sitting),
gardening, backpacking, and camping, etc... as the best practical living
philosophies, which ZMM is about motorcycling and Lila sailing, but I
don't think these important points in a living philosophy make me a
parrot.
woods,
SA
Hey SA,
I'm all about the practicle applications too, I was getting the feeling
from Ham
that I was beginning to be interpreted as a spokesperson for the MOQ and
wanted
to emphisize that I was expressing my own thoughts on the subject which
are not allways
aligned with Pirsigs. Parrot was my term(philosophology). Pirsig appeals
to me because he approaches
the whole philosophy thing on a gut level practical way of common
understanding
in which he hits on the same questions we all have. He makes my brain
juice flow.
I like that.
-Ron
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