At 10:33 PM 7/24/2007, Ham wrote: >Existential facts are always divided between the subject and the object(s). >That's because we are beings-aware, and that for anything to exist it must >be experienced. Existence is a self/other dichotomy. But this does not >mean that reality is limited to what we experience. And this is where you >and Hoffman miss the boat. Without an uncreated source, there would be no >existence, no you, no screen, no UTOE. Our friend Pirsig also seems to have >missed this point, as Marsha has quoted him as saying "Dualism dissolves in >the light of [Noether's theorem] for all (including space and consciousness) >is energy." I asked Jos rhetorically if that included Quality. Maybe for >Pirsig it does. Maybe energy is Pirsig's primary source. (I wonder if >anybody has ever asked him.)
Ham, The MOQ is about events and process, not subject and object. Marsha Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
