At 04:22 PM 8/19/2007, you wrote:
>Quoting MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I think I agree that some discipline in the public schools and at
> > home is beneficial.  But there are other considerations in today's
> > life that just didn't exist in the Victorian period.  The difference
> > between then and now is very great. Besides who in the Victorian Age
> > are you, and Pirsig, discussing.  There are the people represented by
> > Sargent's paintings.  The wealthy expected their children to be
> > disciplined, but what of the other classes.  I don't know.  Do you?
> >
> > Marsha
>
>Hi Marsha,
>
>I think its reasonable to assume that by and large the wealthy were 
>the leaders
>in Victorian society and that other classes took their behavior cues 
>from those
>leaders. So I expect most people accepted discipline as proper. Do you have
>reason to believe otherwise?

Hi Platt,

I think I've heard that wealthy Victorian parents didn't take care of 
their children at all, but turned them over to governesses and 
boarding schools.  So if you are still talking about 'spare the rod 
and spoil the child', I am suspicious.  Were you a well-disciplined, 
proper little Platt?   Also, since there weren't any child labor 
laws, I think many a little tyke, from the less fortunate class, 
found themselves working long hours in dirty factories or the mines.

Marsha



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