[Platt] Indisputable my foot. People by the millions switched from American to foreign cars because of quality-of-product, so much so that several American auto makers went out of business.
[Arlo] And the inane dichotomy again. Its not an "either/or" battle. What's indisputable is the billions pumped into marketing and advertising, and the thousands of reports each year in advertising journals and marketing studies. [Platt] It would be nice if Arlo got his facts straight once in awhile instead of loading this site with his looney left-wing propaganda. [Arlo] Can you tell me what I wrote you consider "left-wing propaganda"? And maybe you should get a better fact checker than "The Rush Limbaugh Program". [Arlo] Governments have also given millions stable, conducive, productive and Quality social patterns in which they thrive. This ad nauseum rehash of Raygun's "government is the problem" is, well, nauseating. [Platt] As usual, the looney left ignores the millions deliberately slaughtered by governments in human history, especially in the 20th century. Arlo would do well to visit the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. [Arlo] Now, THAT'S a page right out of talk-radio. You da man. No one, lest of all me, denies the atrocities committed by nations, including our own, but to say "government is the problem" is the most atrocious of rhetorical lies and deceits. "Government", as I said, has been a force of Good, a mandated rule that has given us public lands, roads, police, border protection, labor protection, enviornmental protections, libraries, etc. I'd ask you to be ashamed of your rhetoric, but I gather you get off on it, don't you? [Platt] Again, compared to the tyranny of governments, the free market is a fountain of beneficence. [Arlo] Inane dichotomy, appalling rhetoric. And we all know your pet Pirsig quotes. They say nothing to the present dialogue. [Platt] The free market doesn't exist? That must be why Pirsig extolled it: [Arlo] Where does it exist? [Platt] Which proves my point. In a free market, Marsha can buy her brushes wherever she likes. But, liberals are not great defenders of freedom as the surrender party in Congress illustrates. [Arlo] More junk from the golden EIB microphone. Marsha buys her brushes here in America, so we have a free market now? What about labor regulations, environmental restrictions, minimum wage, fair termination, legal culpability? Don't those mean we don't have a really "free market"? [Platt] Now will come the usual onslaught of personal insults and character attacks that characterize liberal fringe kooks. [Arlo] I don't have to insult you, Platt. You insult yourself everytime you post. As this latest post to me demonstrates. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
