Craig,

Nothing exists 4.5 billion years ago, nor 1 million years ago, nor 6000
years ago. Now only exists and the past, a human mental concept, only exists
in our perception of now. Your premise is; that time exists independent of
man - could you please  show how you know this? Who could have put time
there (other than us)? What is time?

Micah


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> The MOQ says that experience brings "things" into existence.  Instead of
the usual view, it says that
> "things" are given reality by virtue of the distinctions we discover in
experience.

Let's look at a specific example:  when did the earth come into existence?
1) 4.5 billion years ago (according to scientists)
2) 1 million years ago (according to early man)
3) 6,000 years ago (according to the Bible)

If 1) is correct, then the earth existed prior to our experience of it.
Craig


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