[Ron] Micah, interesting question. geologic record or, the bones we dug out of the ground in the now, suggest that the now once was populated by huge creatures no longer present in the now. We may experience their remains in the now but does this mean they never existed alive? a good question.
Ron, The past exists now. Time is not linear. Unless time is 2 dimensional...but our reality is at least 3 dimensional. Micah [Ron] Micah, At which point in my above statement do I recognize time as being linear? I simply post another thoughtful question in regard to your last statement. By the by, I feel I do owe you an apology. In researching this thread I have found very good evidence which supports your interpetation of the MOQ. and it is as viable an interpretation as at least two other possible interpretations. Solopsism and value /SO dualism are are possible interpretations along with a taoist oneness. Craig, Nothing exists 4.5 billion years ago, nor 1 million years ago, nor 6000 years ago. Now only exists and the past, a human mental concept, only exists in our perception of now. Your premise is; that time exists independent of man - could you please show how you know this? Who could have put time there (other than us)? What is time? Micah -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] subject / object logic [dmb] > The MOQ says that experience brings "things" into existence. Instead > of the usual view, it says that > "things" are given reality by virtue of the distinctions we discover > in experience. Let's look at a specific example: when did the earth come into existence? 1) 4.5 billion years ago (according to scientists) 2) 1 million years ago (according to early man) 3) 6,000 years ago (according to the Bible) If 1) is correct, then the earth existed prior to our experience of it. Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
