Platt,
[SA previously]
> > Arlo, this quote below defines what individual is,
> > thank you. A fictitious convenience as Pirsig
> notes
> > below. Sure I say individual, he, she, etc...,
> and it
> > is "...remembered that they're terms for
> collections
> > of patterns and not some independent primary
> reality
> > of their own." Platt, why the hang-up? What are
> you
> > trying to hold onto so tightly? Platt, this quote
> > defines individual, and then moves on to use
> > individual as a convenient fiction. I see static
> > patterns as fiction thus truth, thereby, avoiding
> the
> > hang-up of believing static patterns are The
> Truth,
> > don't forget about dynamic quality.
[Platt]
> I don't consider individuals such as yourself to be
> "fictitious conveniences."
> I value you as an "independent reality" whose
> individuality brings much
> high quality to my experience. I can imagine the
> look on the faces of your
> staff if you told them they were simply figments of
> your imagination. No. You
> and they are as real as life and love and beauty and
> death. And that's The
> Truth. :-)
How can I be The Truth? There is you, too, as
well as mountains and rivers.
As much as you like to say, "And Pirsig says this
so it must be the MoQ.", your veering from what Pirsig
says on this issue, which to completely Pirsig would
be mistake I'd admit.
How can I be an "independent reality"? I
co-exist with you, too, as well as mountains and
rivers.
Dq is sq. The mountains are really mountains and
the rivers are really rivers. I am really I, and
staff are really staff. Yet, this stage of
understanding commented upon by Dogen and Pirsig is a
pragmatic reality where we are part of web as Chief
Joseph of the Nez Perce mentioned.
woods, woods, woods, are really the woods, and I, my
family, a cabin, the deer, and trees, etc... are these
woods,
SA
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