Thanks for the comprehensive reply Ant. Ian
On 8/31/07, Ant McWatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian, > > >It's good to see these Pirsig passages (also from Arlo and Gav) > >reminding us of the misleading nature of the view of the "individual" > >we normally see in "SOM Fairyland". > > Yes, I think the "individual" is one of those crux issues that Zen Buddhist > influenced philosophies such as the MOQ can help us with. If you > misunderstand the true nature of the individual then the quality of your own > life and the others you interact with, will be lower. If you're the > president or prime minister of a country then that becomes rather critical > due to the relatively high number of people that your misunderstanding will > effect. > > >I think, like you I guess, that we need this more enlightened view of > >the individual in mind before we dive into knottier subjects like > >freedoms and responsibilities "of the individual" and even more > >contentious areas like MOQ politics and governance. > > Sounds good. > > >In order to build on that, I'd like to ask you two questions. > > > >Do you have the references for "Rahula, Cooper, Scott, Peck and Hagen" ? > > In the following are the editions of the the above texts I used: > > > Cooper, David, E. (2002). "The Measure of Things", Clarendon Press, Oxford. > > Cooper, David, E. (2002). 'Emptiness: Interpretation and metaphor' in > "Contemporary Buddhism", Vol.3, Issue 1 (May 2002) pp.7-20. > > Hagen, Steve (1997). "Buddhism: Plain & Simple", Tuttle, Boston. > > Rahula, Walpola (1959). "What the Buddha Taught", 1978 Paperback edition, > The Gordon Fraser Gallery, London & Bedford. > > Scott-Peck, M. (1978). "The Road Less Travelled", 1997 Rider Paperback > edition, Random House, London. > > > >If these are in your "MOQ Textbook", could you confirm which version ? > > Hagen, Rahula and Scott-Peck should be in all versions. Cooper was someone > I quoted for the Ph.D. > > >I mentioned earlier not noticing the Mary Parker-Follett reference, > >and was beginning to wonder if there was an unpublished version in > >progress ? > > As far as I know the Mary Parker Follett section is also in every version of > the Textbook. > > >If not, I'm going to have to go back and read the original > >more thoroughly first ;-) > > If it's not there in the version you have, you can always buy the newest > version of the Textbook at robertpirsig.org which definitely does have it. > ;-) > > Best wishes, > > Anthony. > > > . > > _________________________________________________________________ > The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
