[Ham to David]
> First of all, the value of intimacy has been
sacrificed to the
> irresponsible "have fun now" value system of today's
youth.

     Ham, I agree with you here.  I see so many youth
that make a party and social life out of being in
placement, that fun, for them, seems to be the most
emphasized coping skill they have to deal with their
problems.  To actually relate any kind of awareness of
the seriousness of their immediate situation is
difficult.  They want to get out and go home, and have
fun in the process.  It doesn't work that way from the
outcomes that I hear about, especially with those that
cherished fun so much.  I mean where talking about
extremes I believe.

     [David]
> > I think eventually the media will bore of this
> pushing back the boundaries of taste.

     [Ham] 
> Again, you blame our lack of value judgment on the
> media, business 
> competition, and right wing politics.
> It is the individual who brings value into the
> world, and it is individuals 
> who advance or regress social morality by their
> value choices.

     Ham, I understand your putting the responsibility
on the individual.  I totally agree, but to not think
individuals have an artistic hand in how society works
and what society is culturally, whether it be
business, the media, or parties (I'll refrain from
politics) seems to be missing a good point by David
here.

thanks.

SA


      
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