Dallas, Ant, Ham, Marsha, OK so Descartes's little maxim can be de-personalised and reduced to "is" ... which was his point of course .... it was simply the shortest sentence he could find (albeit from a human subjective - ego - perspective).
Interestingly, the idea that "is not" says no more (about existence) than "is" is the point about negation adding nothing to assertion (about existence / reality) made in a parallel thread. It is simply about one subject communicating with another. It's about nothing more "essential" than language. Ian On 10/7/07, Ham Priday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings Ian, Marsha, and welcome Dallas -- > > One can be 100% confident until Truth proves him wrong. > > > > We could try to reduce "I think therefore I am" > > into "I am" or even just "Is". > > But of course "is" is only true when compared to "is not", > > so there is still some doubt there. > > Right on! As Truth would have it, "is" cannot be without "is not". But, > since being then is a contingency, some people ask: Is what "is not" > contingent upon what "is"? An negative answer argues for Nihilism: All is > vanity (or nothingness). An affirmative answer argues for Essentialism: > That which is absolutely can give rise to that which appears contingently. > > What the Cogito should have stated is that "something is". And if something > is, then "isness" (i.e., Essence) is the fundamental reality, with or > without "is not". > > A good exercise in logical thinking, Dallas. Where do you go from there? > > Essentially yours, > Ham > > > 10/7/07, Ant McWatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 10/7/07, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Greetings, > >> In what facts are you 100% confident? > >> > >> > >> Hi Marsha, > >> > >> Literally 100% confident? > >> What about "Something thinks therefore something is"? > >> > >> Or, thinking about Leary's book of 'Psychedelic Prayers', how about "All > >> Things (Must) Pass"? > >> > >> Ant > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
