I also would like to add, in case anybody misses this point of mine, that I learn more and more about the point of the moq, too.
SA > [Ham] > > ...Pirsig's own pronouncement of his philosophy as > > "not just atheistic but > > anti-theistic" has been taken to mean that there > is > > no metaphysical reality, > > and that whatever is "unknown" cannot be > significant > > because it is > > inexperiencable. This of course limits the MoQ to > > experiential knowledge, > > denying the ineffable, and reducing the Oneness of > > Eastern mysticism to an > > amalgam of empirical patterns. (And Marsha > couldn't > > understand why I found > > this philosophy nihilistic! ) > > > Well, here it shows how Ham continually brings > up > issues about the moq and argues against such issues > about the moq that is NOT the moq. Ham contorts the > moq into something it is not, and no matter how > times > people try to help Ham understand that what HE, Ham, > thinks the moq is saying is not what the moq is > stating, Ham will continue to project his beliefs > about the moq in the face of such seemingly > well-understood practitioners of the moq. Ham, you > don't understand the moq. Do you understand that? > So, for you to say what the moq is, well, that's > what's been unfortunate all this time. So, until > you > understand the moq don't pretend that you can say > what > the moq is. But then I guess your out to show or > argue against the moq to prop your thesis, and as > long > as you do that, well, that shows how much value you > have for your thesis. Nothing wrong with that. > People can continue to try to help Ham > understand > the moq, but in a few days, weeks, and months, he'll > bring up the same issues, again. I really don't get > it, other than Ham likes his thesis and is trying to > show how much better it is than the moq. Nothing > wrong with that effort. > I'm probably saying 'stuff' about Ham's thesis, > that Ham counts off as so wrong and false and I'm > distorting his thesis, but the same goes for Ham > when > it comes to him trying to say what the moq is. > > morning light, > SA > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? > Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
