Hi Gav, life after death, life eternal; one implies the other as we are all going to die. Gautama died, does he still exist somehow in your scheme?
On DMT did you think you were moving towards a bright light in the distance? Did you see Jesus while you were on DMT? The point of being human is not to evolve to godhood; that is a choice for the individual if they find their delusion comforting. -Peter On 18/10/2007, gav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jesus wasn't on about life after death, neither was gautama for that > matter (i don't know about mohammed). > jesus was on about life eternal. big difference. > gautama was on about escaping the cycle of birth and death, which is > similar but seems to have been interpreted in a mostly negative fashion (ie > eventually never being reborn, rather than eventually never dying). > > after death? read near death experiences, they are mostly positive and > have many consistent factors. or for a first hand experience you could try > DMT or ayahuasca (i tried DMT and it was, well erm......fucking > amazing...there is nothing to fear). > > life and death, like every other pair of poles, are dynamically related - > ie a cycle. life-death-life-death-life-death. this is the way with all > polarity (why do people have trouble with this?). the central assertion of > jesus and others is that once you recognise the game and that you are the > player and the umpire and everything else you don't have to keep playing > according to the old (socially derived) rules. > > the point of being human is to evolve into godhood. > > david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter said: > Buddhism, like Christianity and Islam, promises life after death; > realising the lie in that is one of the biggest steps to freedom you can > take. > > dmb says: > I know for a fact that there is life after death. Or at least there has > been plenty in the past. I don't mean to say that dead people come back to > life. That's never happened, but life in general just keeps going. Despite > all the many deaths every day, there are enough births and hatches to keep > up. That should be enough re-incarnaton for anyone. Maybe life after death > also means life after the ego or little self is seen as such. I mean, > literal interpretations of life after death doctrines can't be taken > seriously, of course, but try looking at the idea in more abstract terms and > then its not so silly. It seems the literal versions are just very bad > interpretations of good ideas. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble > challenge with star power. > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > --------------------------------- > Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get > it now. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
