[Peter]
> I don't understand the connection you are trying to
> prompt between the
> Dalai's use of the word 'freedom' and the moq's
> dynamic quality. Are you
> suggesting they are the same?
[SA quotes from Lila]
[Ch. 3]
"Freedom. That was the topic that would drive
home this whole understanding of Indians. Of all the
topics his slips on Indians covered, freedom was the
most important."
[Ch. 9]
"Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting
edge of reality, the source of all things, completely
simple and always new. It was the moral force that had
motivated the brujo in Zuni. It contains no pattern of
fixed rewards and punishments. Its only perceived good
is freedom..."
[Ch. 11]
"But in a value-centered explanation of evolution
they are close to the Dynamic process itself, pulling
the pattern of life forward to greater levels of
versatility and freedom."
[Ch. 12]
"A primary occupation of every level of evolution
seems to be offering freedom to lower levels of
evolution."
[Ch. 17]
"'Freedom' doesn't mean anything. Freedom's just
an escape from something negative. The real reason
it's so hallowed is that when people talk about it
they mean Dynamic Quality."
I don't feel like finding more quotes, but what
do you think?
[Peter]
> I didn't get much beyond the first phrase in the
> clip Marsha posted; 'To
> attain freedom...'.
> He talks from a position of authority as if he
> already has this freedom and
> so he can advise you about it. Freedom for what I
> ask again? Freedom against
> the Chinese - obviously not? Freedom from suffering?
He is asking for more autonomy for the Tibetan
people. Any teacher can be seen as in a position of
authority. Parents are in positions of authority. No
big deal.
[Peter]
> I think most people will subliminally equate the
> Dalai's use of the word
> 'freedom' with salvation from oblivion, and that I
> can't go along with. The
> inorganic matter that forms the substrate for that
> Lama's sense of
> individuality will one day be absorbed back into the
> dirt. Buddhism, like
> Christianity and Islam, promises life after death;
> realising the lie in that
> is one of the biggest steps to freedom you can take.
Ok. I'm not too keen on the whole life after
death stuff. I know we are living. I don't know
beyond that.
woods,
SA
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