Ron: Krimel, I think what Dmb is saying is that MoQ. 's levels were not Meant to be looked at objectively because When you look at a complex adaptive system this way it is impossible To separate the levels and find their origins for the levels are An emergent process not a static collection. Your Zoom metaphor works well with this type of level structure.
When Pirsig uses the Pre-intellect term it implies the reduction Of intellect which in turn leads to the reduction of social which Will then imply the reduction of biological. It succumbs to the infinite reduction paradox. This should cause us to view the term pre-intellect In a different light. Technically there is no Pre-intellect in regard to how intellect is defined Within the MoQ levels except when understood in terms As a process of experience. Which Marsha wisely Suggested. Humans are constantly in a process of creating Themselves. When pre-intellect is viewed objectively It takes us to the tips of our senses. When pre-intellect is viewed culturally It takes one down to pre-opinion which Is an aggregate of social and individual Experience When viewed as a complex adaptive system It is immediate experience or pure Because it has not yet joined with Cultural and individual experience To form the complete experience of A human being. Ron: Krimel has taken the focus to memory verses recognition in the past Where there is a distinction in experience from experience to recognizing to Remembering as a process. It would be helpful to explore this area To further this thread. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
