> > [Krimel previously]
> > The absurdity results from clinging to a 19th
> > century view of causality.
> > Particles obey probabilistic laws. So do
> biological
> > organisms. 
> 
> [SA previously]
> Krimel, I'm glad to see that somebody else views
> this quote of Pirsig in the light you do.  Also,
> Pirsig discusses, it might be in this very chapter
> quoted above, how cause can be replaced with value
> and
> it doesn't subtract from the meaning, but actually
> enhances the meaning of what is happening.
> 
> [Krimel]
> I like to think that Pirsig simply was unaware of
> some of these things and
> that while he saw some of the issues he was not
> prepared to deal with them.

     I completely agree.  Pirsig laid the groundwork
for some issues, and for other issues it may have been
more accidental due to the initial pebble in the pond
analog.


     [Krimel]
> Given the improvements in our understanding of
> probability and chance it is
> certainly possible to develop a metaphysics of
> randomness. His use of Taoism
> as the basis for the MoQ at least puts him on the
> right path. But since he
> elects to ignore these MoQ discussion it is hard to
> say what he thinks. We
> only know what he thought.


     Yes, "...it is hard to say what he thinks.  We
only know what he thought."  I would say due to
qualities broad inclusionary tendency randomness finds
traction and is traction in a orientation (in light)
of value.  Just like everything that has and will be
according to the moq's evolutionary take.


SA  


      
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