Hi Krim/SA Does random mean that what happens involves no act of choice? -or a sort of indifference. Yet, everything we experience has a value whether good, bad or, in fact, felt indifference. How can we know that any events are random and not preferred?
David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism >> [Krimel] >> The absurdity results from clinging to a 19th >> century view of causality. >> Particles obey probabilistic laws. So do biological >> organisms. > > [SA] > Krimel, I'm glad to see that somebody else views > this quote of Pirsig in the light you do. Also, > Pirsig discusses, it might be in this very chapter > quoted above, how cause can be replaced with value and > it doesn't subtract from the meaning, but actually > enhances the meaning of what is happening. > > [Krimel] > I like to think that Pirsig simply was unaware of some of these things and > that while he saw some of the issues he was not prepared to deal with > them. > Given the improvements in our understanding of probability and chance it > is > certainly possible to develop a metaphysics of randomness. His use of > Taoism > as the basis for the MoQ at least puts him on the right path. But since he > elects to ignore these MoQ discussion it is hard to say what he thinks. We > only know what he thought. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
