Hi Krimel, On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Krimel wrote: > Steve, > I think you have pegged an important issue here... > With regard to subjective/objective knowledge I agree with you as > far as you > have taken it. I would add that there really is only subjective > knowledge. I > only know what I know. I will only ever know whatever it is I wind up > knowing. There is only one subject, at least in my world. Objective > knowledge is knowledge that you and I can agree upon or at least > agree to > disagree about. I like to think of it as intersubjective knowledge > and there > the dualism is swept away. The subject/object distinction is really > little > more than a matter of linguistic convenience.
I think what you are saying is consistent with Pirsig: "What guarantees the objectivity of the world in which we live is that this world is common to us with other thinking beings. Through the communications that we have with other men we receive from them ready-made harmonious reasonings. We know that these reasonings do not come from us and at the same time we recognize in them, because of their harmony, the work of reasonable beings like ourselves. And as these reasonings appear to fit the world of our sensations, we think we may infer that these reasonable beings have seen the same thing as we; thus it is that we know we haven't been dreaming. It is this harmony, this quality if you will, that is the sole basis for the only reality we can ever know." [ZMM p.268] Regards, Steve Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
