important quote deserves more attention from us all DM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [MD] What is SOM?
> Hi Krimel, > > On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Krimel wrote: >> Steve, >> I think you have pegged an important issue here... >> With regard to subjective/objective knowledge I agree with you as >> far as you >> have taken it. I would add that there really is only subjective >> knowledge. I >> only know what I know. I will only ever know whatever it is I wind up >> knowing. There is only one subject, at least in my world. Objective >> knowledge is knowledge that you and I can agree upon or at least >> agree to >> disagree about. I like to think of it as intersubjective knowledge >> and there >> the dualism is swept away. The subject/object distinction is really >> little >> more than a matter of linguistic convenience. > > > I think what you are saying is consistent with Pirsig: > > "What guarantees the objectivity of the world in which we live is that > this world is common to us with other thinking beings. Through the > communications that we have with other men we receive from them > ready-made harmonious reasonings. We know that these reasonings do not > come from us and at the same time we recognize in them, because of their > harmony, the work of reasonable beings like ourselves. And as these > reasonings appear to fit the world of our sensations, we think we may > infer that these reasonable beings have seen the same thing as we; thus > it is that we know we haven't been dreaming. It is this harmony, this > quality if you will, that is the sole basis for the only reality we can > ever know." [ZMM p.268] > > > Regards, > Steve > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
