Steve said to Ron:
As concepts, they [DQ and Quality] are static intellectual patterns of
value but they are intended to point beyond intellect.
Ron replied:
What is it that it is pointing to? If states of awareness are static
intellectual patterns, it leaves no Place for Quality. That is why I
asked the question: what are the words Pointing to if this your opinion.
You contend that the words point to something outside static
intellectual patterns yet you state that nothing Exists outside of these
static intellectual patterns. I would like to Know which is it? Or at
least what are the words pointing to?
dmb butts in:
All these terms refer to experience. The MOQ makes a distinction between
static and dynamic, then further subdivides static quality into four
levels. What's the problem? This leaves EVERY place for Quality.
According to the MOQ there is a place for nothing EXCEPT Quality. There
is nothing, no experience, that ISN'T quality. The pre-intellectual
reality is DQ so that it is neither static nor intellectual. DQ refers
to experience, the cutting edge of experience, prior to
intellectualizations or any static interpretations. I can't speak for
Steve here, but I think he agrees.
Ron:
Hello Dmb,
I agree also, but, if this experience is neither static nor
intellectual,
Then where does it figure in conceptually? What does one call this
awareness?
Ron amends: pre-intellectual experience is describe as essential
To the concept of Quality but it does not fall into any of the levels
That is said to encompass all of reality. It is not indefinable for
Pirsig, Dewey and James define it. If it has a static element (which it
seems to possess) it is not covered by the levels.
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