Steve: I think you and perhaps Ron make the misstake of thinking of culture as only social. Pirsig defines culture as a collection of social and intellectual patterns. Intellectual and social patterns are both culturally transmitted. It's just that different types of patterns are being transmitted. To distinguish between the two types, think of copying a behavior versus copying a rationale for behavior. This copying is the static latching of patterns that occurs on both levels. The difference is what is being copied.
Ron: I make a distinction between social and cultural because differing societies may exist within a culture. I take culture to mean the whole body of a thought system, and just as you say intellect and culture stand hand in hand No arguments there. I define intellect as the relationship of the individual With their culture, How one relates may influence their social standing Within that culture and may influence intellectual values. My main point here for the past few weeks is exactly what you stated, That intellect and culture are two parts of one entity and may not be Reduced to levels in the traditional sense except by the relationships Previously mentioned. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
