Hi Heather
> SA: Yes. I don't think the analogy called dynamic
> came along until Lila. I would say that when Pirsig
> refers to Quality being undefined, and all static
> patterns are "less than the One", this undefined
> Pirsig is referring to is what he eventually called
> dynamic quality.
Exactly.
> Magnus:
>> The "One" Pirsig mentioned in the quote (which I
>> removed), is called Quality in
>> the MoQ. And the first split of that is into DQ and
>> SQ.
>> Your definition of analogy seems to be very tightly
>> connected to the quality
>> event, right? So before a quality event, there
> would
>> be only dq, but after the
>> event, the subject and object resulting from the QE
>> are analogies of the
>> original dq? Would that be a fair description?
>
> SA: Yes, the definition of analogy I'm referring to
> is "tightly connected to the quality event". Once the
> quality event occurs, then static patterns happen and
> these patterns are analogies of dq. As the quote
> mentioned though, these analogies/things of dq "...no
> matter what thing you use to define it, the thing will
> always describe
> something less than the One itself." This moral
> description is the code of art, also known as dynamic
> morality. Each level/pattern is another "thing"
> defining quality, and each level is dq and sq. Thus,
> on the intellectual level a quality event happens. On
> the social level a quality event happens. On the
> biological, etc... Any sq trying to define the code
> of art on each level is "less than the One itself",
> less than the dq itself that each pattern/level
> directly experiences unto its' own. A quote of this
> dq and sq on each level as follows [Lila; Ch. 11]:
>
> "This division of all biological evolutionary
> patterns into a Dynamic function and a static function
> continues on up through higher levels of evolution."
>
> SA continues: This dq and sq "function" are still
> ritualized by the code of art on each level.
Yes, but still, when the Quality Event has occurred, the static patterns should
be an analogy of the Quality (the One), not DQ. DQ is the complete opposite of
SQ. Since Quality is all there is, and the first division of Quality is into DQ
and SQ, then everything that isn't SQ, is DQ. And vice versa. You just can't
compare them.
But if you say SQ is analogies of Q, then it works. I just have to scrap the
use
of analogy when I talk about intellectual pattens. But I mostly use "represent"
anyway so that's not a problem.
> By
> the way, how cold is it where you live now? Lots of
> snow? Just curious.
I wish. I live in southern Sweden, and when I was a child, we used to have
plenty of (or at least some) snow from Nov/Dec to Mar/Apr. But I'm very sorry
to
say that the global warming is really messing up the winters for my children.
The last few years we've had some good weeks of snow, but this year is really
bad. I traveled ~350km north of here yesterday and didn't see much snow there
either. I think you need to go halfway to Bo (in northern Norway) to make sure
to have a good winter.
Magnus
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