Magnus,
> > SA previously: This dq and sq "function" are
still
> > ritualized by the code of art on each level.
Magnus:
> Yes, but still, when the Quality Event has occurred,
> the static patterns should
> be an analogy of the Quality (the One), not DQ.
SA: I see where your going with this, and I can't
currently argue against this. Interesting... I see
it both ways, and I'm going to need to further ponder
this. I find dq to be undefined, and sq to be
defining dq. Yet, I also see Quality (the One) is
both dq and sq, thus, Quality is also undefined. The
way I'm coming at this, for the moment since I'd like
to hear how you view this as well, is I start with the
question, "What is Quality?". I find we could answer
this question, and still at the same time the question
will endure and remain incompletely answerable. The
answer would be static, but the remaining and enduring
question is due to the dynamic aspect of quality.
Thus, a shorthand version of what I said would be the
answer to the question is static quality, and the
question is dynamic quality. Any labeling, such as
the use of ? (question) is understandably static
quality, in the sense, by stating dq is dq, I'm
labeling dq with a static pattern called dq. Thus,
where analogies come in, and so on.
Magnus:
> DQ is the complete opposite of
> SQ. Since Quality is all there is, and the first
> division of Quality is into DQ
> and SQ, then everything that isn't SQ, is DQ. And
> vice versa. You just can't
> compare them.
SA: Here are quotes where dq and sq 'interact' or
what is the event aspect of the Quality event as
follows:
"Static quality, the moral force of the priests,
emerges in the wake of Dynamic Quality."
"The first good, that made you want to buy the
record, was Dynamic Quality. Dynamic Quality comes as
a sort of surprise. What the record did was weaken for
a moment your existing static patterns in such a way
that the Dynamic Quality all around you shone through.
It was free, without static forms. The second good,
the kind that made you want to recommend it to a
friend, even when you had lost your own enthusiasm for
it, is static quality. Static quality is what you
normally expect."
SA continues: I know what I'm referring to is meshed
with examples that Pirsig was trying to use to
highlight, meaning, I'm not talking about priest, or
music, so much as the static emerges from dynamic, and
in the second quote, where the "first good" and
"second good" are mentioned. Dynamic first then
static next. The static emerging from the dynamic is
the Quality event I'm referring to. So, I don't know
if "compare", as you mention, is what you meant here.
Dq is different from sq, but something does happen
between them, and this something is morally referred
to as the code of art and as an occurrence it is the
event aspect of the Quality event. What do you think?
Magnus:
> But if you say SQ is analogies of Q, then it works.
> I just have to scrap the use
> of analogy when I talk about intellectual pattens.
> But I mostly use "represent"
> anyway so that's not a problem.
SA: I find sq an analogy of Q, as well as, sq is an
analogy of dq, at least for now this is how I see
this. I'd like to hear more about what you say on
this topic.
I don't know. I've always thought of Sweden,
Norway, and Finland as very cold weather places were
ice lasts for some time, but I guess the southern
regions geographically (longitude) might line up with
England, correct? And I don't think of England as
getting much snow, if at all.
raining now,
SA
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