>> Steve asked:
>> What are the bad results of not believing in God?
>>
>> Platt answered:
>> National Socialism, Fascism, Communism.
>>
>> dmb says:
>> As Arlo pointed out, "Painting the Nazi's as "atheistic" is simply an
>> historically
>> invalid rhetorical attempt to disassociate religion from the holocaust".
>> One of
>> Hitler's top officers was so fanatical a believer that his failure to
>> find the
>> holy grail drove him to commit suicide. In fact, the Catholic Church has
>> been
>> criticized for its complicity with fascism in Germany, Italy and Spain.
>> The
>> history of anti-Semitism within Christianity goes back at least a
>> thousand years.
>> Mussolini and the Italian Fascists were given support by the Vatican and
>> could not
>> have come to power without that help. Likewise, Franco was very
>> interested in
>> reasserting the power and authority of the Catholic church in Spain and
>> tried to
>> re-establish the monarchy upon his death in 1975.
>>
>> In fact, a common theme among these fascist and their theist friends was
>> their
>> fear and hatred of "godless communism". Fascism was/is the attempt to
>> reassert
>> tradition in the face of secular democracy and so it is certainly no
>> accident that
>> fascism is essentially anti-intellectual, anti-democratic and religious.
>> (And if
>> you see a parallel between that and today's neocons, it is only because
>> you're
>> paying attention.) And even if fascism were entirely secular, it still
>> would not
>> fit Sam Harris's idea of legitimate position based on reason or evidence.
>>
>> There's a nice little documentary called "Italian Fascism in Color" that
>> is worth
>> seeing on this point. Netflix has it, if you're interested.
>>
>> See, the thing about drawing lessons from history is that one has to
>> first learn
>> what actually happened in history. Otherwise its just, "yea, team! Our
>> side is
>> good and the other side is evil", which is exactly the fascist attitude.
>
This communism-phobia is very tiresome as well. A deeply rooted social
pattern I'd say.
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