Quoting Christoffer Ivarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> 
> 
> Me:
> >> This communism-phobia is very tiresome as well. A deeply rooted social
> >> pattern I'd say.
> 
> uhm, didn't get your name:
> > Considering the history of communism and its biological murder of 
> > dissidents,
> > a justified pattern I'd say.
> 
> It is not communism that has done this, as you well know. When it comes to 
> Russia it is just a continuing theme that the Russian rulers have been on 
> since the fall of East-Rome, and in other cases it is pretty much the same 
> thing - nowhere has there been a grand scale communist rule, as it is 
> described by Marx and Engels, but a lot of variations of Leninism (which is 
> NOT communism as such)  have been twisted and built into older ruler 
> traditions of whatever country it has manifested itself.  It is not 
> communism itself that has caused this, but rather catastrophic 
> interpretations of it and plain old Mad Rulers.
> 
> Furthermore - Nationalism and Communism was never intended to be combined, 
> that is also a corruption of the original thoughts.
> 
> Chris 

How about China, North Korea, Cambodia, and Cuba? All "catastrophic
interpretations" of sweet, benign Marx and Engels communism? 




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