Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Platt:
> According to Wikipedia, "arete" has a number of different meanings
> besides
> Aristotle's.  The entry refers to Pirsig's use of arete as a synonym for
> Quality.
> 
> Ron:
> One of which is superiority and dominance, which you feel is what Pirsig
> meant not balance.
> power to dominate or defeat. Correct? This is better-ness, not balance.
> 
> 
> Thusly atheism is moral. 
> 
> 
> Lying, cheating stealing and killing is moral
> If done for profit, gain and superiority.
> 
> 
> Is this what you mean?

No. Lying, cheating, stealing and killing are biological patterns. Social
patterns dominate by punishing these bio-patterns. Pirsig says intellect 
dominates social patterns and that such dominance is better, i.e., more moral.
The problem is that SOM intellect doesn't provide for morals at all.   


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