Ron, Okay, definition equals analogy. Reality equals experience.
Marsha At 12:32 PM 3/6/2008, you wrote: >Hello Marsha, >I'm just saying Bo and Pirsig >Invent a definition within >The framework of the culture >We live in for matters of >Convenience of workability. >It makes the level system >Functional conceptually. >The mistake is taking this >View as reality itself. >-Ron > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MarshaV >Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:56 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [MD] Zen > > >Greetings Ron, > >I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly. Are you implying that >if the dictionary's definition of intellect mentions subjects and >objects, then Bo is correct. If it doesn't mention subject and >objects it's because it's taken for granted, and then Bo is correct. > >Marsha > > >At 11:00 AM 3/6/2008, you wrote: > > > >SA, Marsha, Bo > > > >Bo has it. Once again we see how messy things get when there isn't a > >clear > >WORKING definition of the 4th level. > > > >Ron: > >But there isn't a clear working definition this why we invent one. But > >sometimes you guys give me the impression that you forget this is so. > >Bo's quote hits it squarely: > > > > > The CULTURE in which we live, hands us a set of intellectual > > > glasses to interpret experience with, and the concept of > > > the primacy of subjects and objects is built right into these > > > glasses. > > > >The culture hands us s/o. s/o may not be a property of human > >intellectualism. But it is the property of our culture, our human > >Intellectualism. > >So, > >For convenience sake we ASSUME SOM as intellect to gain > >A relative degree of certainty as it applies to our own > >Western condition. But to take it as an absolute fact > >General to all evolution, is making the same ole SOM > >mistake of taking metaphor for reality. In reality there > >are no levels but the dance of Quality on the edge of awareness. > > > >Just as SOM uses zero and whole numbers for methods of planning > >And prediction SOL uses SOM as the 4th level in the same way. > > > >I'm curious as to just how Bo intends to utilize SOL. Does he have > >A plan? Is it something akin to Radical empiricism? I suggested > >A Radical Metaphysic approach in the same line of thinking > >But haven't heard anything other than the level banging > >That's been going on > >ffffoooooooorrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerr >r > >rrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > >So Bo, whats the plan for SOL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list > >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >Archives: > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > >Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
