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> Platt: > > I agree with your interpretation of the emergence of the intellectual > > level -- when humans began to see the self (the individual) and the > > world as separate. For that and many other reasons I think it's > > entirely proper to refer to the intellectual level as the individual > > level. > > I guess you say - and I agree - that "the world" came to be along > with the individual as separated from it. The said social value > existence had no "world" in the sense of an inert, indifferent > material realm nor of themselves as isolated subjects. Yet, > "individual level" kind of indicates that there weren't individuals > before that, a kind of ant-hill existence but that is not true. Maybe > you mean the "human rights and - worth" individual and its > freedoms to speak and write ...etc (the intellectual patterns) and > that is just it. By the "individual level" I mean a level where HUMAN individuals are recognized as separate from the group. As Pirsig stated, the social and intellectual (individual) levels are reserved for human beings. Cells, ants and other individual critters don't make it to these upper levels. As you point out, the intellectual patterns of individual rights are an essential aspect of the strictly human individual level. Regards, Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
