Jorge usually one ideology dominant but of course many are possible.
We need to do science in the contexts of our values, what ends we are trying to realise, and to assess science, its approach, goals, research projects, in the context of what we want to achieve. This is unavoidable, the problem is where science claims only to be interested only in the truth and uses this as a cover to have shut down debate about what science is to be done, what methods work best, etc. We need more democracy in science and less elitism and corporate monopoly. DM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Goldfarb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: [MD] Science and the MOQ > Krimel wrote (presumably alluding to my exchange with > SA): > > "If all you are doing is creating a rationale for > arguing about what > is of value, why do you need to talk about science at > all?" > > and DM adds: > "as Zizek suggests according to Tony Myers: > "the idea that we can criticise the truth value of a > proposition from > a neutral or objective position is the most > fundamental argument of ideology" > Science wants to get itself out of this problem I'd > suggest, and so does Maxwell". > > Jorge: Re. Krimel's question: No need at all to talk > about Science at all when discussing values. The > subject just arose in this Science and the MOQ Thread. > If SA agrees we could move on to a new Thread. > > Re. DM's addition: quite agree in that Science wants > to get itself out of this problem of Values. As I > quipped before: 'Science has nothing of value to offer > about values'. > > Another thing, I didn't quite understand in your quote > the phrase: " the most fundamental argument of > ideology" ; it sounds as if there was just one > ideology > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
