> > [Krimel] > > But here are two illustrations of my point: Easter Island and Haiti. Both > > islands were deforested as a result of the need for cooking fuel. The > > human populations in both places have never recovered. Some suggest they > > could foreshadow the fate of the planet but of course you will have none > > of that. > > [Platt] > What's your point? > > [Krimel] > These are example of social systems destroying biological systems and dying > as a result. Which according to your statements about Pirsig's moral order > are perfectly moral.
The levels are in constant battle with one another. But, it is immoral moral for a higher level to completely destroy a lower level on which it depends for its survival. That's suicide. "Just as a society that weakens its people's physical health endangers its own stability, so does an intellectual pattern that weakens and destroys the health of its social base also endanger its own stability." (Lila, 13). But, as you know, evidence that we are destroying the planet is far from conclusive. Is it still snowing where you are? > [Platt] > Does Bright mean above average intelligence or something like that? > > [Krimel] > http://www.the-brights.net/ Thanks. That makes Pirsig a Bright. "The MOQ gives a purely naturalistic and genetic explanation of the phenomena of the moral life." (Pirsig's notes, Copleston Papers) > > [Krimel] > > What would you say pre-intellectual means? > > [Platt] > What you know before you know anything else. What do you think it means? > > [Krimel] > So are you saying it is what you know before you know it? Could you please > elaborate? > > I think it mean sensation and a host of non-conscious processes from immune > response to emotion. I agree. It means sensation prior to concepts. Thought is a secondary, derivative effect from physical sense date. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
